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Old 04-18-2019, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Interesting spreadsheet I just encountered:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...pC0/edit#gid=0

On the top row is the total vote tally:

Democrats: 60,727,598
Republicans: 50,983,895
Other: 1,967,161

Percentages:

Democrats: 53.4%
Republicans: 44.8%
Other: 1.7%
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Old 04-18-2019, 09:48 AM
 
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... and demographics are working against the Republicans too. Trump is the last hurrah for the Baby Boomers, whose numbers are in decline due to mortality. Stats from US Census:

2016 Baby Boomers: 74.1 million
2020 Baby Boomers: 71.3 million (a net loss of 2.7 million BB's)

In 2016 there were 137 million votes cast out of 323 mil total population (42.4%). That implies a loss of 1.1 million BB voters from 2016 to 2020. Exit polls showed Trump carried 53% of the 65+ group, so he's looking at a loss of 580,000 votes from voters who died.
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Old 04-18-2019, 09:52 AM
 
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The fundamentals of gerrymandering are based upon “packing” and “cracking”. “Packing’” as many of your opponents votes into as few districts as possible and “cracking” (or dispersing) your own voters to control as many districts as possible. The tendency of Democratic voters to concentrate into tightly compacted urban districts amounts to a sort of self-gerrymandering.

While there are very few Republican districts that are as much as 70% Republican, there’s any number of Democratic ones that are 90+% Democratic. It’s those type of districts where you’ll find after an election claims of “obvious” voter fraud by pointing out precincts where there’s not a single Republican vote, while ignoring it was in a CD that was 90% or more D by registration.

Given the inefficient dispersal of Democratic votes, Democrats have to win by a higher percentage than Republicans to achieve the same number of seats.

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Old 04-18-2019, 10:13 AM
 
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Well as Pelosi said, in AOC's district a glass of water with a D by it would win so....
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Old 04-18-2019, 10:38 AM
 
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Originally Posted by James Bond 007 View Post
Interesting spreadsheet I just encountered:

On the top row is the total vote tally:

Democrats: 60,727,598
Republicans: 50,983,895
Other: 1,967,161

Percentages:

Democrats: 53.4%
Republicans: 44.8%
Other: 1.7%

What's your point. I voted for Democrats in my district due to the I-77 debacle. Has absolutely no bearing on who I will vote for in the Presidential election.



You are grasping for straws again.
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Old 04-18-2019, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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What's your point. I voted for Democrats in my district due to the I-77 debacle. Has absolutely no bearing on who I will vote for in the Presidential election.

You are grasping for straws again.
No, actually it is YOU who are grasping at straws, because I just showed some data about 110 million people voting, and you are trying to claim I am trying to influence how 1 person (you) should vote. Why should I care about how 1 person votes when I'm talking about 100 million?

110 million > 1.
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Old 04-18-2019, 10:47 AM
 
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Originally Posted by James Bond 007 View Post
Interesting spreadsheet I just encountered:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...pC0/edit#gid=0

On the top row is the total vote tally:

Democrats: 60,727,598
Republicans: 50,983,895
Other: 1,967,161

Percentages:

Democrats: 53.4%
Republicans: 44.8%
Other: 1.7%



Donald Trump's campaigning 24-7 before the mid-terms, went for naught!
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Old 04-18-2019, 11:02 AM
 
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Donald Trump's campaigning 24-7 before the mid-terms, went for naught!
How so. He increased his support in the US Senate and he did far far better than Obama in the US House.



And I've said on day one, that letting the Democrats win the house was like mana from heaven for Trump. They have proven they are an absolute disaster so far with predictions of the world ending, grounding planes and the deranged mutterings about Russians.



It's campaign gold for Trump.
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Old 04-18-2019, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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What's your point. I voted for Democrats in my district due to the I-77 debacle. Has absolutely no bearing on who I will vote for in the Presidential election.



You are grasping for straws again.
Who is your US representative ????
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Old 04-18-2019, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Austin
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did you know the winner of electoral college vote determines the winner of a presidential election, not the winner of the popular vote, James? I thought everyone knew that.
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