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Dems, we have this conversation all of the time when it come to Trump, Brexit, now Australia... the lefty media lies all around the world to make leftists social policies seem inevitable, and to discourage the right from showing up.
You like to deny it, but it is very important that you overcome this in this election cycle, because they do the same thing Inter-party as intra-party. They DID rig the elections for Hillary over Sanders-- Wasserman Schultz did not resign as DNC head on the eve of the convention for nothing.
In fact, anyone who has bothered to read the wikileaks knows that this is factual. The pollsters merely adjust their samples until they get the result that they want. They do it openly. They talk about it among themselves.
They are doing it to you again. No one wants Joe Biden, except the media and party-bosses who think that he is a shoe-in to win against Trump. But YOU don't want him, and you know it. Yes, he was once a beloved figure, but he has moved away from you by standing still, and seems to be a creature of a different era. And he looks damned awful, slurring his words, changing subject in mid-sentence, often multiple times, mispronouncing and using words that do not actually exist, and not answering questions, not in a clever, politician sort of way, but in an "I did not understand what I was asked" kind of way.
This guy is not 20 points ahead of Sanders. You know it. Don't let them fool you. They blew it for you once with Hillary. Don't let them do it to you again.
As you obviously abhore leftys what is it about rightist policies that you like
No healthcare?
outragious education costs.?
Massive military budget?
Racist/mysoginist attitudes?
More money to the rich?
Friendly with our enemies?
Trashing our allies?
Rediculous tariffs.
Separating children from parents and putting them in cages.
Bottom line? i'll take Biden over the con man presently in office
Hillary hasn't announced she's running for president in 2020.
Well at least you are consistent. but that logic still doesnt work on either level. Winning a primary race doesnt mean you would win it in the general. I think Bernie won Wyoming too, no one thinks he could do it in November.
Biden and Bernie have never run against each other, so how Bernie did 4 years ago is irrelevant.
The media is trying to set the stage for an epic election. They did the same in 2016 when they were pushing for a Hillary and JEB! Bush showdown.
I do think the media/pollsters are being honest because given the 20 or so hopefulls they know the only one that has a chance against Trump is Biden with Bernie being a close second.
What is funny is the media and the rest of us know that America is not ready for nor do they want some crazy far Left Lefty in the WH and we certainly do not want an elderly Socialist. Biden is a known commodity and that is why they are pushing and propping him up.
As you obviously abhore leftys what is it about rightist policies that you like
No healthcare?
outragious education costs.?
Massive military budget?
Racist/mysoginist attitudes?
More money to the rich?
Friendly with our enemies?
Trashing our allies?
Rediculous tariffs.
Separating children from parents and putting them in cages. Bottom line? i'll take Biden over the con man presently in office
Every single day and twice on Sundays. Those who would allow Trump to continue in office are not minorities of any kind or female.
As we see LGBTQ rights being ripped away and the rights of women under fire. A conservative court for generations - the young people of this country will never have a chance for the country they want.
Winning the battle but losing the war - no thanks.
The reality is that the majority of Americans are neither Far Right nor Far Left eventhough both of those groups tend to make more noise and power in the two parties primaries. I believe th3 larger number of Americans including independents which now make almost as large a group as the two parties are more interested in someone more in middle and this is where Biden comes in and the support that he has. Is not the rabid support that you see in the crowds of the Far Left or Right but is more the support of the quiet middle.
After Trump most Americans want to return to normality
The reality is that the majority of Americans are neither Far Right nor Far Left eventhough both of those groups tend to make more noise and power in the two parties primaries. I believe th3 larger number of Americans including independents which now make almost as large a group as the two parties are more interested in someone more in middle and this is where Biden comes in and the support that he has. Is not the rabid support that you see in the crowds of the Far Left or Right but is more the support of the quiet middle.
After Trump most Americans want to return to normality
I think you're right. Most people you meet online are activities of one kind or another - either on forums like this or on twitter, etc.
The real voting electorate is not as extreme. Shrug. That's just the way it is.
The reality is that the majority of Americans are neither Far Right nor Far Left eventhough both of those groups tend to make more noise and power in the two parties primaries. I believe th3 larger number of Americans including independents which now make almost as large a group as the two parties are more interested in someone more in middle and this is where Biden comes in and the support that he has. Is not the rabid support that you see in the crowds of the Far Left or Right but is more the support of the quiet middle.
After Trump most Americans want to return to normality
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I think you're right. Most people you meet online are activities of one kind or another - either on forums like this or on twitter, etc.
The real voting electorate is not as extreme. Shrug. That's just the way it is.
independent is not an ideology. So at best you mean moderate, which has no real meaning.
When most people say moderate, they just mean people with views on both sides, which just means they by your own definition, they hold extremes from both sides.
They also dont equal or even come close to the size of either parties. People who make that claim use voter registration numbers, which includes states that dont even allow you to register by party. So every single person in 20 states is counted as an independent.
independent is not an ideology. So at best you mean moderate, which has no real meaning.
When most people say moderate, they just mean people with views on both sides, which just means they by your own definition, they hold extremes from both sides.
They also dont equal or even come close to the size of either parties. People who make that claim use voter registration numbers, which includes states that dont even allow you to register by party. So every single person in 20 states is counted as an independent.
I wasn't referring to independents. I was referring to the very large swath of voters who don't spend time on forums like these or on twitter who are, yes, MODERATES.
The party thinks Biden will get the rust belt back and looking at the field who else can?
It depends, remember when Dems were saying the old generation is dying off. Obama said they clung to their guns and bibles. Hillary thought the rust belt was in the bag and ignored them, talking heads referring to PA as Lucy and the football. Insulting them, calling the men and women in the rust belt uneducated.... Now they need them.
Where is Joe on guns? religion? I don't know, he's too busy pulling the race card and attacking Trump.
It depends, remember when Dems were saying the old generation is dying off. Obama said they clung to their guns and bibles. Hillary thought the rust belt was in the bag and ignored them, talking heads referring to PA as Lucy and the football. Insulting them, calling the men and women in the rust belt uneducated.... Now they need them.
Where is Joe on guns? religion? I don't know, he's too busy pulling the race card and attacking Trump.
What do you care? You wouldn't vote for Joe Biden if he were the last candidate on earth.
Trump is your man ~ you've made that clear.
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