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Old 05-27-2019, 10:03 AM
 
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“In 1984,” Biden joined with South Carolina’s arch-racist Strom Thurmond to sponsor the Crime Control Act, which eliminated parole for federal prisoners and limited the amount of time sentences could be reduced for good behavior. The Hill newspaper reported that Senator Biden “was instrumental in pushing for the [1994] crime bill, which critics have said led to a spike in incarceration, particularly among African Americans.”

Yet Biden is now eager to project an image as a longtime ally of people of color.

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/jo...ill-haunt-him/
Making prisoners of any color serve their full sentences is a great idea, in any year..

I do not like much about Joe Biden, but fully support this action.
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Old 05-27-2019, 01:30 PM
 
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In an era where the Democrats have decided the only winning strategy is to run on a platform of Identity Politics, they're going to have to make a tough choice when it comes to Biden's blowing into dog whistles for racism over the years. If they ignore it because it's politically convenient, they will only prove to the country they're big hypocrites.

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/jo...ill-haunt-him/
Amongst the left, you have to be virtues and perfect. Joe Biden supported segregationist in the 70s, and made racist remarks about Obama's speech and tone. The 8 percent of the intersectional woke class according to the Hidden Tribes report either has to fall in line with Biden in order to beat Trump, or stand by their virtue and not vote for Biden who has a racist and sexist past. This will be very hard for many people who are part of the Woke class to do.
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Old 05-27-2019, 03:23 PM
 
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Jim Crow “snuck in” in the first place because Democrats – members of Biden’s party – wrote, signed, and brutally enforced the South’s Jim Crow laws. This was 100 percent the bloody work of Democrats, not Republicans.

Democrats killed Reconstruction, enacted Jim Crow segregation laws, and deployed their terrorist wing – the Ku Klux Klan – to oppress and murder black men, women, and children, all while Democrats cheered.

So, if Joe Biden is going to invoke Jim Crow, he should start by apologizing for his party’s – the Democrat Party’s – central and indispensable role in inflicting the entire, racist Jim Crow structure on black Americans. Instead he is attempting to project it onto R's.



"The Democrats" from 1865 to 1965 in the south that did these things are mostly dead. Those still alive are senior citizens... and probably mostly modern southern Republicans. Their descendants are probably mostly modern southern Republicans. If you don't know this or are trying to ignore this, most folks from the south or in the south now know this. Most conservatives and racists in the South (including Strom Thurmond) flipped into the Republican party in the 60s/70s/ 80s and the Republicans welcomed them and did not seem to have anything bad to say about what they did or what they thought or what they wanted to still do. Look at who voted for and against most civil right laws since 1980 and most of the support for fair treatment and justice are from Democrats and most of the opposition is from Republicans.



Talk history if you (and hatemonger D'Souza) want to talk history and ancient history and political parties that are nothing like what they were 50-150 years ago- as a political tactic and not out of actual concern for civil rights- but what matters most now is what the two parties are doing right now. Modern Republicans are the ones passing voter suppression laws and policies against blacks, latinos and urban voters in many districts. It is blatant evil un-American activity being done by the Republican party.


You want to talk busing? Most Republicans opposed busing.

Probably more modern day Republicans send their kids to private school or home school than Democrats. They have their reasons. Some of which are probably racism and classism. Acknowledged or not. Today, not 50 or 150 years ago.


Want to talk the Crime Control Act of 1984? It passed the Senate 91-1. So if you find anything unacceptable about Senate passage of that bill then or in retrospect, you should criticize both parties equally and everyone but that one voter in Senate.


If you actually care about the civil rights of blacks and many others, please tell me that you specifically reject any and all efforts to rollback those civil rights bills and reject any and all current Republican voter suppression efforts. If you will not do so, it will be apparent that this is tactical whistling and merely an attempted con job.

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Old 05-27-2019, 03:54 PM
 
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The biggest problem with Biden - well, one of the biggest - is that he reveals the Democrats' hypocrisy. How can they run a campaign on the other side being racist when their nominee complimented Obama on being a "clean black"? Add in the antisemites on the far left whom mainstream Dems refuse to condemn, and the liberals have a bigotry problem.
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Old 05-27-2019, 03:56 PM
 
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The biggest problem with Biden - well, one of the biggest - is that he reveals the Democrats' hypocrisy. How can they run a campaign on the other side being racist when their nominee complimented Obama on being a "clean black"? Add in the antisemites on the far left whom mainstream Dems refuse to condemn, and the liberals have a bigotry problem.
HA HA HA! From the party of bigots. And that's not just MY perception; it's the perception of over half the country.
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Old 05-27-2019, 04:09 PM
 
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There is plenty of bigotry and hypocrisy in the Democratic and Republican parties. And in the Libertarian and Green Parties. And within independents.


Republicans attacking Biden for things he said and did 30-50 years is pretty darn hypocritical and bigoted when many (even most) of the people saying and doing those same things were Republicans and most of those still saying those things are Republicans. The party leading and protecting civil rights since the 1960s has been the Democrats. That message is sent by Republicans to Republicans and any conservatives and racist not yet in the Republican party all the time when want to rally the base against civil rights and for dominance by their alliance. Republicans attacking Democrats for the sins of their grandfathers up thru their great, great, great, great, great, grandfathers are a new but completely transparent and hypocritical and bigoted political hack job. Republicans have lead or supported most or all of the attacks on civil rights since 1960s. They only stop where and when the evolution of the majority of America has made some attacks too exposed, brazen and untenable these days. And some are still out there testing for what they might be able to get away with later.

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Old 05-27-2019, 04:51 PM
 
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There is plenty of bigotry and hypocrisy in the Democratic and Republican parties. And in the Libertarian and Green Parties. And within independents.


Republicans attacking Biden for things he said and did 30-50 years is pretty darn hypocritical and bigoted when many (even most) of the people saying and doing those same things were Republicans and most of those still saying those things are Republicans. The party leading and protecting civil rights since the 1960s has been the Democrats. That message is sent by Republicans to Republicans and any conservatives and racist not yet in the Republican party all the time when want to rally the base against civil rights and for dominance by their alliance. Republicans attacking Democrats for the sins of their grandfathers up thru their great, great, great, great, great, grandfathers are a new but completely transparent and hypocritical and bigoted political hack job. Republicans have lead or supported most or all of the attacks on civil rights since 1960s. They only stop where and when the evolution of the majority of America has made some attacks too exposed, brazen and untenable these days. And some are still out there testing for what they might be able to get away with later.
Well said.
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Old 05-27-2019, 05:16 PM
 
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South Carolina’s "arch-racist Strom Thurmond" was a senior Republican when he sponsored that 1984 crime bill. In fact he was the Republican chair of the Senate Committee on the Judiciary at that time. He mellowed some on his racism as he got older. But if racist attitude or assumptions or bias are present in the bill, it is mainly there because Thurmond and Reagan put it there.
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