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Obamacare will be recognized down the road as a huge achievement. It was what was possible at the time and worked towards codifying the notion that everyone is entitled to healthcare. That is life. That is pro-life.
If while having the White House, 60 Senate seats and the majority in the House, Obamacare was the best one could do, we might we well close the books on the country.
It was what the corporations wanted, it was not the best we could do.
If while having the White House, 60 Senate seats and the majority in the House, Obamacare was the best one could do, we might we well close the books on the country.
It was what the corporations wanted, it was not the best we could do.
It's funny. Once upon a time, Republicans cherished Obamacare as the solution to health care in Anerica.
Now, you have Democrats patting themselves on the back for passing legislation that essentially amounts to corporate welfare straight out of the Heritage Foundation.
And people wonder why Trump won, and may just get a 2nd term...
If while having the White House, 60 Senate seats and the majority in the House, Obamacare was the best one could do, we might we well close the books on the country.
It was what the corporations wanted, it was not the best we could do.
Yep, here's that premise once again: what may be good for corporations must necessarily be bad for the common people.
Always let the perfect be the enemy of the good! Medicare For All or bust! Nothing less is acceptable!
This reminds me of the quote by TR, about people complaining about the efforts of people in the arena:
“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”
Yep, here's that premise once again: what may be good for corporations must necessarily be bad for the common people.
Always let the perfect be the enemy of the good! Medicare For All or bust! Nothing less is acceptable!
This reminds me of the quote by TR, about people complaining about the efforts of people in the arena:
“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.â€
Very little has changed. People still can not afford health care. Obamacare as noted, was the "rights" solution to health care.
Even the Insured Often Can't Afford Their Medical Bills
Correct. It's not perfect and has shortcomings. In what fantasy world do you imagine A democrat could enact your perfect healthcare policy with a Republican Congress? Just curious.
If while having the White House, 60 Senate seats and the majority in the House, Obamacare was the best one could do, we might we well close the books on the country.
It was what the corporations wanted, it was not the best we could do.
House Majorities dont matter when the Senate is set up with a filibuster rule and Barack Obama only had 60 senators for 21 days.
Correct. It's not perfect and has shortcomings. In what fantasy world do you imagine A democrat could enact your perfect healthcare policy with a Republican Congress? Just curious.
Irrelevant. The Democrats had the White House, the Senate and the House. They bumbled health care and lost all three.
Irrelevant. The Democrats had the White House, the Senate and the House. They bumbled health care and lost all three.
Your read on what was possible is delusional.
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