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Old 07-07-2019, 11:46 AM
 
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he needs the rust belt to win

he is a terrible leader. He could not even get his wall built when republicans controlled all chambers of government. He almost started a war with Iran. The communist part of china is outsmarting him the trade war.
however, i don't know if the democrats are united enough to beat him. some are far too left.

Hahahahaha And he's going to win in 2020 because Real America knows where the problem lies and it isn't with Trump.



WaPo was forced to admit today that his popularity is at an all time high. Furthermore, 10s of 1000s don't show up for a President who isn't a winner.
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Old 07-07-2019, 11:51 AM
 
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A plain and simple "Yes", according to my calculations at 270towin.com.

In fact, Dems simply have to either keep all the states they had in 2016, and either

*add FL and WI, or

*add FL plus any other state with more EVs than WI's 10 (AZ and NC look especially ripe for the taking. A Dem won the AZ senate seat and NC went for Obama in 08, with an incumbent not nearly as controversial as Trump)

*Simply retake WI, MI, and PA. Even if they lose NV and FL, the Dems win the White House.


Trump blows hot, but 2020 could leave him in the cold.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...chigan-polling



Donald Trump is doomed without Vladimir Putin, no ifs, ands or buts about it.
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Old 07-07-2019, 11:58 AM
 
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The Rust Belt will decide the presidency in 2020, just as it did in 2016.

Right now, the Democrats don’t have a candidate that can win the Rust Belt, except for (maybe) Tim Ryan from Ohio.
Correct. A Blue Dog Dem can win the Rust Belt, assuming he/she has a long anti NAFTA (in its signed form) track record, plus is not hard line left in social issue viewpoints.

No such Dem exists in 2019.
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Old 07-07-2019, 11:59 AM
 
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Only idiots try and poll this far out.........means nothing

Trump wins going away....
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Old 07-07-2019, 11:59 AM
 
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Correct. A Blue Dog Dem can win the Rust Belt, assuming he/she has a long anti NAFTA (in its signed form) track record, plus is not hard line left in social issue viewpoints.

No such Dem exists in 2019.

Blue Dog Democrat = Unicorn.



The rust belt is never going to believe the Democrats again.
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Old 07-07-2019, 03:03 PM
 
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Blue Dog Democrat = Unicorn.



The rust belt is never going to believe the Democrats again.

well, we'll see in 2020. Hillary isn't running.
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Old 07-07-2019, 03:24 PM
 
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well, we'll see in 2020. Hillary isn't running.
Yeah, she still remains the Democrats best chance.
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Old 07-07-2019, 06:13 PM
 
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The rust belt is never going to believe the Democrats again.
Democrats did very well in the rust belt for the 2018 mid-terms. Both MI and WI governorships flipped from R to D. KS flipped from R to D for governor in 2018. IL flipped from R to D in 2018 for governor.

Though not rustbelt, Nevada governorship flipped from R to D in 2018. New Mexico flipped governorship from R to D.
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