Bernie's voters are under educated and poor, Warren's are older and richer

[mrpeatie]

Originally Posted by RICANRICAN

Regardless of politics- that was good for a chuckle.


I think Bernie suffers a noticeable lack of accomplishments while Warren is somewhat lacking in charisma. She seems to have found a niche of just letting being the policy wonk be her persona and I think that is working. The 'we have a plan' mantra is the most recognizable line by a Dem aside from Harris yearning for the good old days of forced bussing.

[Winterfall8324]

Originally Posted by mrpeatie

Regardless of politics- that was good for a chuckle.


I think Bernie suffers a noticeable lack of accomplishments while Warren is somewhat lacking in charisma. She seems to have found a niche of just letting being the policy wonk be her persona and I think that is working. The 'we have a plan' mantra is the most recognizable line by a Dem aside from Harris yearning for the good old days of forced bussing.

Just as a matter of substance, Warren's ideas are based on wide consensus among the DC intellectual class.

When confronted about how we should deal with extreme housing prices and high mortgages American families face, she talks about loosening zoning laws, building housing units on a federal scale, and promoting development that benefits real estate companies and increases market opportunities for investors.

Think tanks and corporate/academic partnerships that staff government agencies love these ideas because they see it as the best of both world, helping the rich and the poor (despite evidence increased development can lead to higher prices in Seattle and Boston).

Bernie offers a more lower class model that isn't appreciated in neo-liberal economics: https://slate.com/business/2016/01/b...ing-today.html

Land trust are when the community (local government) owns the land, but homes are privately owned. On one hand it restricts the ability of the owner to rent the land off, mortgage it, or use it as capital expenditure on larger investments.

On the other hand it keep rent and prices low, offers support to homeowners who want to sell and move, and protects lower income land owners from being abused by large scale realtors who want to buy up the land. In fact land trusts have been very successful in Burlington.

But its not considered 'wonkish' by the media because it does not factor in the interests of corporations and it deincentivizes development.

Is that a bad thing? Not for lower middle end families, and not for those who want a humbler society. But that view is thought ignorant because powerful interests that have a monopoly on political thought don't want policies that negatively affect their interests.

And they convince Americans that their interests are the status-quo and must by nature be supported. So yes Warren has more approval among the intellectual class, but people have to decide for themselves what type of society they envision.

[Natural510]

Bernie and Liz are basically two sides of the same progressive coin. The vast majority of those voting for their one would lend their support to the other vs a moderate or establishment candidate. I'm a long-time Bernie supporter, but Liz has very solid plans which can be realistically implemented. Whereas Biden, Harris, and some of the lesser candidates like O'Rourke don't really seem to be standing for anything and are running to further their own egos or power trips.

However, the candidate who is the smartest person in the room wherever he goes, has plans to fix what's broken rather than cry about what's wrong, and can bring together people from all parts of the political spectrum is Andrew Yang. He just needs more exposure, and more than three minutes talking time at the next "debate".