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I have no problem with you arguing that the word asset has a greater meaning and that some will be confused by it.
However, you seem to deny the fact that russia is favoring a candidate and set up fake social media profiles to prop up that candidate.
Russia always tries to influence elections, just as we do. Noone is arguing that point. The point is that to argue and claim that Tulsi and Stein are assets, suggesting they are working with the Russians, or that Trump worked with the Russians is absolutely false and assinine.
People like Hillary and also the media have worked tirelessly to conflate the term asset with interference. If Russia prefers Jill Stein, that does not make her an asset of the Russians.
Just admit it - you worship Hillary Clinton and think she can do no wrong.
Oh I'm 100% familiar with what a bot is. What I'm telling you is that there is a rather giant swath of real people with established accounts who have had them for years who are regularly flagged and temp-banned for being a bot account -- but they aren't. If I ventured into the maelstrom that is Twitter more often, I expect that I would be flagged and temp-banned as a bot account too. Something about the squishy center -- we tend to get mistreated by both sides for even daring to enter the conversation.
That Styxhexenhammer guy that I linked you has been repeatedly flagged, detected and otherwise called a Russian bot. Well, he's a real person, so the methodology for detecting an actual Russian bot is quite clearly incredibly flawed.
So sure, you might want to claim that there are thousands of Russian bot accounts stumping for Tulsi. How do you know that they're not just real people with zero connection to Russia who just happen to genuinely like Tulsi Gabbard? Somebody might even feel inspired by Tulsi, hop on the Twatter for the first time in their life and start speaking out about how awesome she is. Real people do that sort of thing you know.
You'd have to clear up all the false positives where a real and completely non-Russian person is detected and counted as a Russian bot. The fact that it happens so much puts the entire premise on shaky ground.
Im not talking about the real people, im talking about the actual bots.
Also. Twitter has rules when it comes to second accounts. Most of the people you name probably violate those rules( i had a second account, not even political, it was satire, and it got banned)
I have no problem with you arguing that the word asset has a greater meaning and that some will be confused by it.
However, you seem to deny the fact that russia is favoring a candidate and set up fake social media profiles to prop up that candidate.
And when we stop doing it to other countries we will have the moral right to complain. Until then we need to tuck tail and produce better candidates hold them accountable and hold our news media accountable. Enough reporting using false videos to drive the agenda. Enough reporting agenda over fact.
Every country has favorites. Why do we give Israel and AIPAC a free pass? I don't think there is ant one nation that influences our government more or has more influence than Israel.
And when we stop doing it to other countries we will have the moral right to complain. Until then we need to tuck tail and produce better candidates hold them accountable and hold our news media accountable. Enough reporting using false videos to drive the agenda. Enough reporting agenda over fact.
Every country has favorites. Why do we give Israel and AIPAC a free pass? I don't think there is ant one nation that influences our government more or has more influence than Israel.
But, according to Hillary, if a country 'likes' someone, then that makes her an 'asset' which suggests she is working with them.
Just admit it - you worship Hillary Clinton and think she can do no wrong.
Everyone is capable of doing wrong, but wrong is in the eye of the beholder. You and I do not ideologically agree based on your posts.
Me disagreeing with you do does not mean I worship Clinton anymore than it does you "worshiping" Trump, or Stein or whoever you voted for.
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Russia always tries to influence elections, just as we do. Noone is arguing that point. The point is that to argue and claim that Tulsi and Stein are assets, suggesting they are working with the Russians, or that Trump worked with the Russians is absolutely false and assinine.
People like Hillary and also the media have worked tirelessly to conflate the term asset with interference. If Russia prefers Jill Stein, that does not make her an asset of the Russians.
You have a right to your opinion in bold, i simply disagree on the definition of asset. an asset is simply useful, it doesnt mean you own it. But I can acknowledge that not everyone will see it that way.
I would add, take your own advice, dont conflate the word or views of other.... like saying I "worship" someone just because I disagree with you.
And when we stop doing it to other countries we will have the moral right to complain. Until then we need to tuck tail and produce better candidates hold them accountable and hold our news media accountable. Enough reporting using false videos to drive the agenda. Enough reporting agenda over fact.
Every country has favorites. Why do we give Israel and AIPAC a free pass? I don't think there is ant one nation that influences our government more or has more influence than Israel.
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But, according to Hillary, if a country 'likes' someone, then that makes her an 'asset' which suggests she is working with them.
The last time a Democrat called out AIPAC, they got called an anti-Semite.
I have no problem with you arguing that the word asset has a greater meaning and that some will be confused by it.
However, you seem to deny the fact that russia is favoring a candidate and set up fake social media profiles to prop up that candidate.
America doesn't just interfere with foriegn elections, we overthrow governments we don't like.
Your friend Hillary was involved with such events recently in Haiti and Ecuador.
The point is we don't have a functioning democracy, we have a group of special interest controlling our government; domestic or foriegn, it doesn't matter.
Russia being against US imperialism means they'll support the anti-imperialist candidate like Ron Paul or Tulsi Gabbard. In fact that should make you happy, Russia has done far less to America than many domestic interest groups.
MSNBC is insinuating that she is not against Russia interference because she has not come out against it? What does interference mean?
Many of the 'bot' checks are done from unnamed sources who pick out who they choose for political reason.
None of these people are 'assets'. Only lunatics would believe that. Hillary is an extreme lunatic who worships war and corporate power.
Everyone is capable of doing wrong, but wrong is in the eye of the beholder. You and I do not ideologically agree based on your posts.
Me disagreeing with you do does not mean I worship Clinton anymore than it does you "worshiping" Trump, or Stein or whoever you voted for.
You have a right to your opinion in bold, i simply disagree on the definition of asset. an asset is simply useful, it doesnt mean you own it. But I can acknowledge that not everyone will see it that way.
I would add, take your own advice, dont conflate the word or views of other.... like saying I "worship" someone just because I disagree with you.
Fair argument on your part. I will point out, however, that most of us who opposed and continue to oppose Hillary have done so because of her globalist, war-mongering, corruption. Be it Trump, Jill Stein, or Bernie, anyone is better than her. And for her to suggest that anyone who opposes her is an 'ASSET' of Russia is outrageous.
I simply do not see how you can go out of your way to defend her in post after post.
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