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Old 04-21-2008, 02:23 PM
 
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I didn't say it was a good argument. I just said that is the likely significance Clinton will attach to a win in Pennsylvania.
clinton is only running so she can get idiots to donate to her campaign so that she wont have to pay Mark Pen the 4.5 million and the other 5 million she loaned herself LOL
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Old 04-21-2008, 02:31 PM
 
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in hillarys warped mind, a victory of any kind in pa. will be enough to stay in the race. her only hope is for victory is on a latter ballot at the convention. she understands that if obama wins the nomination and follows with a general election victory, that she will never be able to sell the lincoln bedroom again. if she damages him sufficiently, through the convention, mccain may win, thus opening the door for her again in 2012. she believes she will defeat captain planet[gore] at that time. mccain will be 77 and possibly drooling in his budweiser. at that time, he will be an easy target for hillbillary.
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Old 04-21-2008, 04:22 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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According to this projection a win of 55%-45%, which seems reasonable, will give her a net gain of a whopping 9 delegates on Obama.

The Clinton campaign is attempting to sell all this "momentum" BS to the superdelgates because there is no other way she can win. Pretty sad when your only path to victory is an undemocratic one.

It is pretty sad and such BS, I agree. I really am quite disgusted with the whole superdelegate concept and their reluctance to embrace Obama when it has been over for Hillary since Super Tuesday.
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Old 04-21-2008, 04:47 PM
 
Location: San Antonio North
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It is pretty sad and such BS, I agree. I really am quite disgusted with the whole superdelegate concept and their reluctance to embrace Obama when it has been over for Hillary since Super Tuesday.
Was this a pathetic attemt to bump your own retarded thread?
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Old 04-21-2008, 04:54 PM
 
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If she wins it will mean on to june before Obama has a chance to seal the deal with super delegates since he wouldn't win outright.
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Old 04-21-2008, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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If she wins it will mean on to june before Obama has a chance to seal the deal with super delegates since he wouldn't win outright.
She's expected to win in Pa, always has been. The demographics favor her, Pa has a higher median age, a higher percentage of whites, a lower median household income, more women and fewer college degrees than the country overall. All that plays into Clinton's hand as she attracts women, the old, the uneducated and the racist vote. Obama keeping it under 10% would be considered a victory.
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Old 04-21-2008, 05:52 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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All this shows is that Hillary is prepaired to sacrifice party unity for her own benefit. McCain just has to sit back and allow this inter party back biting to destroy Obamas chances of winning the election in Nov. The more "dirt" Hillary discloses about Obama, the less work McCain has to do.
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Old 04-21-2008, 07:34 PM
 
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It has been agreed for quite some time that Hillary will take PA. It is the type of demographic that supports her. Older, white, uneduated, blue-collar. So how does the outcome of this state's primary, an expected win, somehow mean that Hillary has the "momentum"?

Anybody see the lunacy in that?
John King on CNN went through the numbers today and if Hillary wins by 15% in Pennsylvania, she will probably gain around 200,000 in the popular vote and net maybe 9 delegates. He also did some hypotheticals and gave Hillary her wins in Indiana(this one is no guarantee but gave it to her argument sake), Kentucky, Puerto Rico and West Virginia. He gave Obama NC, Montana, South Dakota and Oregon and guess what? She will not be able to catch up and there will still be a decent distance between them in popular votes and delegate count. If she is winning some and he is winning some, there is no ligament argument to the super delegates that she has any kind of momentum.
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Old 04-21-2008, 08:06 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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John King on CNN went through the numbers today and if Hillary wins by 15% in Pennsylvania, she will probably gain around 200,000 in the popular vote and net maybe 9 delegates. He also did some hypotheticals and gave Hillary her wins in Indiana(this one is no guarantee but gave it to her argument sake), Kentucky, Puerto Rico and West Virginia. He gave Obama NC, Montana, South Dakota and Oregon and guess what? She will not be able to catch up and there will still be a decent distance between them in popular votes and delegate count. If she is winning some and he is winning some, there is no ligament argument to the super delegates that she has any kind of momentum.
Exactly my point. It is just utter lunacy to have her still in the race, wasting all this time, when the Dems could be attacking the retarded policies of the Republicans as promoted by that inept Bush and that equally laughable relic McCain. This should be an easy win for the Dems, but with all this wasted energy on a candidate who no longer matters, it shows incredible lack of political savvy on the part of the Dems.

Hillary Clinton is passe. Bill Clinton is passe. The Clintons are passe.
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Old 04-21-2008, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Downtown Greensboro, NC
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Once Obama wins North Carolina this thing will be over.
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