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Old 02-17-2020, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Nope. But it does mean you are completely divorded from reality. Those polls are there. They had Biden winning and/or coming in 2nd in Iowa & NH.
Iowa, yes. New Hampshire, in the further out polls yes, but as it got closer to the Primary no. You really need to go a few weeks before the N.H primary to show Biden polling well there. He was mainly polling 3rd or 4th in the N.H polls following the Iowa Caucus & was trending downward and even polled in 5th (which is where he finished) in a few of the post debate polls where Klobuchar got the bump.

 
Old 02-17-2020, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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DNC appears headed to a more fractured party than they have been in decades.

No matter who is awarded the nomination behind closed doors at the convention, the rest will have extremely bitter supporters.
I don't see this being much of an issue. We probably won't know the chances of someone going into the Convention without the majority of pledged delegates until after Super Tuesday and the momentum from that. However, there seems to be little appetite to change the results, whoever winds up with the plurality of Pledged Delegates is pretty much certain to be the nominee.
 
Old 02-17-2020, 09:03 AM
 
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Are you kidding, no way would we stay home! Moderates still have their voice heard. Governor Hogan in the blue state of Maryland was elected twice because of moderates.

Oh I'm sure their voices are going to be "heard," - they are just not going to be represented this time around, when it comes to the upcoming election.
There is only one spot to represent Dem. Party in the process, and I think it's going to be taken by Sanders.

And so the "moderates" will have to make their choices at the end - to stick with him, with Trump, or to stay home.

As I've said earlier.

I might be wrong of course, but that's the picture I see developing so far.
 
Old 02-17-2020, 09:48 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Can't delegate votes be "bought"? There's someone with $60 Billion asking that question!
I think chaos can be bought and I Bloomberg may be able to do that. Only about 25% of voters show up in primaries. And Bloomberg, with his armchair campaign style, may be able to get the brokered nomination out of the chaos.
 
Old 02-17-2020, 09:55 AM
 
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Iowa, yes. New Hampshire, in the further out polls yes, but as it got closer to the Primary no. You really need to go a few weeks before the N.H primary to show Biden polling well there. He was mainly polling 3rd or 4th in the N.H polls following the Iowa Caucus & was trending downward and even polled in 5th (which is where he finished) in a few of the post debate polls where Klobuchar got the bump.
5 days before the NH primary, Biden was #2 on the RCP average.



You have to get very very close it seems and even then they aren't that good.
 
Old 02-17-2020, 10:17 AM
 
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Democrats might nominate a guy with a God complex to replace a guy they think has a dictator complex.

Good luck with that matchup.
 
Old 02-17-2020, 11:01 AM
 
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5 days before the NH primary, Biden was #2 on the RCP average.



You have to get very very close it seems and even then they aren't that good.
Look at the dates of those polls, most were pre-Iowa. Ince the polls starting rolling in after the Iowa Caucus you saw a drop even more so after the debate.
 
Old 02-17-2020, 11:20 AM
 
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Can't watch any lengthy you tube videos without 2-3 interruptions for Bloomburg ads, he has instantly become as annoying as Flo from Progressive.
 
Old 02-17-2020, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Can't watch any lengthy you tube videos without 2-3 interruptions for Bloomburg ads, he has instantly become as annoying as Flo from Progressive.
Glad I don't have to see ads on youtube.
 
Old 02-17-2020, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Democrats might nominate a guy with a God complex to replace a guy they think has a dictator complex.

Good luck with that matchup.
At this point, I'm so over eager to get this current Criminal out of Washington, I'll vote for another Criminal even with murder convictions!
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