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Old 04-23-2008, 12:59 PM
 
Location: part of the Matrix--for now!
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Socialism refers to the goal of a socio-economic system in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to control by the community.

distributing wealth. I am pretty sure that is wanting everyone to be the same. economically at least. wake up, it's 1984 and george orwell is calling.
"property and the distribution of wealth are subject to control by the community." NO!!! Just as I thought, you don't know what you're talking about. Please read the link I posted that runs to a Marxism FAQ, but do so at your own risk, you just may learn something.
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Old 04-23-2008, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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I have no idea what I am talking about. I posted the definition of socialism, you posted a link for marxism.

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"property and the distribution of wealth are subject to control by the community." NO!!! Just as I thought, you don't know what you're talking about. Please read the link I posted that runs to a Marxism FAQ, but do so at your own risk, you just may learn something.
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Old 04-23-2008, 01:11 PM
 
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I agree that both sides, Hillary and Obama, have thrown out nasty comments, but the Obama supporters seem to have taken the personal attacks to a new level. By simply not voting for Obama you are automatically labeled "racist" by Obama supporters. Call out any of Obama's short-comings and you are labeled racist.

I think the slurs from Obama's side bother me more because he based his run for office on "UNITY" and stated that he would run a new, different, fresh campaign without traditional Washington politics. Seems now his statements were all lies, as there is not one shred of unity coming from his campaign, and his fresh, different kind of politics have turned into the same old usual lies.
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Old 04-23-2008, 01:18 PM
j33
 
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I agree that both sides have been pretty bad, but let's face it there are some people (not all) who have been shouting 'Obama is a racist' so many times, you have to wonder what exactly their collective issues are.

I, quite frankly, am sick of being told to drink Kool-Aid etc. I'm a woman in her mid-thirties who has been politically active for quite some time, I think I know a bit about politics and politicians, enough to know that they are all a bit dirty, and if one takes it too seriously, they walk away a lessor person for it.

Oddly enough, when I have gone on record expressing the similarities of both democratic candidates and occasionally try to inject a bit of reason into the histrionics, I'm usually met with resounding silence. I think that some people are here to sling mud and fight, nothing more.

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Old 04-23-2008, 01:23 PM
JJG
 
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some of the posts I see on this thread just shows why people are "sooooo mean" to each other.

It's becuase they love to point fingers. That's Politics. That's PEOPLE. It's alot easier to say one candidate and the candidate's "cheerleaders" are the problem, when in fact, those same people are "cheerleaders" themselves who ignore everything wrong with their OWN candidate. It happens with all 3!

I'm an Obama supporter. And I can't say he has much experence, because he doesn't. I can't say his judgement skills are on point, because they might not be. But I'm voting for him because I think he's the best chance we have and he relates more to me. And NO, I'm not a black seperatist, elitest like I know alot of you Hillary/McCain supporters want to rush to say.

That said, I'm not going to bash anyone else's choice. But I WILL bash the ones who say that their candidate is all perfect and people who vote for the other person are idiots. We don't need any FOX News guys here.....
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Old 04-23-2008, 05:03 PM
 
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I think some of the comments on this thread prove the OPs point. Some people's responses start off with what they don't do and they proceed to bash the other side, thus contradicting themselves. If you're a civilized person, there is no reason to hurl personal attacks at people that disagree with you, plain and simple. It's dehumanizing. And the slavery that the media has put us in...we believe and accept at face value everything the media says about an issue or candidate. We accept these horrid debate formats that don't enlighten anyone. This makes it all worse.
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Old 04-25-2008, 05:58 AM
 
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I agree that both sides have been pretty bad, but let's face it there are some people (not all) who have been shouting 'Obama is a racist' so many times, you have to wonder what exactly their collective issues are.

I, quite frankly, am sick of being told to drink Kool-Aid etc. I'm a woman in her mid-thirties who has been politically active for quite some time, I think I know a bit about politics and politicians, enough to know that they are all a bit dirty, and if one takes it too seriously, they walk away a lessor person for it.

Oddly enough, when I have gone on record expressing the similarities of both democratic candidates and occasionally try to inject a bit of reason into the histrionics, I'm usually met with resounding silence. I think that some people are here to sling mud and fight, nothing more.
I have had that same experience. I posted best wishes to the PA voters and people argued about that!
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Old 04-25-2008, 06:00 AM
 
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some of the posts I see on this thread just shows why people are "sooooo mean" to each other.

It's becuase they love to point fingers. That's Politics. That's PEOPLE. It's alot easier to say one candidate and the candidate's "cheerleaders" are the problem, when in fact, those same people are "cheerleaders" themselves who ignore everything wrong with their OWN candidate. It happens with all 3!

I'm an Obama supporter. And I can't say he has much experence, because he doesn't. I can't say his judgement skills are on point, because they might not be. But I'm voting for him because I think he's the best chance we have and he relates more to me. And NO, I'm not a black seperatist, elitest like I know alot of you Hillary/McCain supporters want to rush to say.

That said, I'm not going to bash anyone else's choice. But I WILL bash the ones who say that their candidate is all perfect and people who vote for the other person are idiots. We don't need any FOX News guys here.....
OHHHHHHHHHHHHH I am an elitist. I am a Democrat. My goal is to vote for the single democratic person who will lead this country. I want to be in a very elite winning crowd, care to join us???
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Old 04-25-2008, 07:53 AM
 
Location: alt reality
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Its because people are on this forum and following the media 24/7 looking for any tiny bit of info or mis-representation to bring back here and proudly proclaim "Ha-Ha, your candidate said/done this! Their campaign is over! Na-nanny boo-boo, stick your head in doo-doo " A lot of people have let this election drive them straight up batty and I don't know if they can come back from it. I think it would be best for every one to take a break from here like I did. Go outside and enjoy life. Go play with your children. Go have sex with your spouses. And when you come back, it won't matter if someone "disses" your candidate because you won't be so high-strung about it. You know who your vote is going to anyway so, have fun kids!
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Old 04-25-2008, 08:07 AM
j33
 
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ParkerP - Amen. And should I remind you people. For the most part, these candidates don't even know you exist, and don't give two figs about what you post on an internet talkboard. The vitriol is silly, just plain damn silly.
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