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Old 04-24-2008, 11:08 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Hillary supporters and the media are desperately clinging to the notion that Barack Obama is not electable because he can't win the BIG states. They're now salivating at the prospect that just because Hillary got an expected win in PA, this indicates that she is more worthy. This is wrong. This is very short-sighted. Pathetic wishful thinking.

It was never Obama's strategy win the BIG states. His strategy was to do well enough in the greater number of contests to WIN THE NOMINATION. He is well on his way to doing that despite the spns. Obama is kicking Hillary's butt. What is revealing though is that Hillary Clinton supposedly had all the political savvy. She had access to the political strategists through her husband. They both had a wealth of resources. They had already been through more campaigns. Wouldn't you think Hillary Clinton would be able to muster up a superior campaign strategy to WIN THE NOMINATION? Her defeat is INEVITABLE because Obama has proven superior. He's a better decision-maker. Far more sophisticated. Far better at bringing together the right people to be effective at accomplishing the goal at hand.

So you Obama haters continue to desperately spin, whine, and dream, focusing on the meaningless, while Obama collects delegates and forces the remaining superdelegates to vote the will of the people and come to his side. We're almost at the end, and Hillary has to decidedly win every remaining contest. Not gonna happen!

Barack wins.
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Old 04-24-2008, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Wantagh NY
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Couldn't have said it better myself!
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Old 04-24-2008, 11:16 PM
miu
 
Location: MA/NH
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And the arrogant tone of this post is another reason why Hillary supporters will refuse to vote for Obama in November. I don't think that I will vote for Obama ever thanks to people like you. The arrogance of Obama's campaign is such a turnoff. And if he wins, it will only be become he'll have spent more on his campaign than any other presidential candidate in US history. But I refuse to be bought. And no Kool-aid for me.
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Old 04-24-2008, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Wantagh NY
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Be careful here...
I don't think it is Obama or his campaign that is being arrogant.

It is just mainly his supporters. (me included)

And I might add that Hillary supporters are exactly the same:

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And to be perfectly honest, the fact we are all on these boards right now is to the point we are looking to rub it in that our candidate is doing well. And now that I think about it, it is really because this whole race has gone on to long. It makes people choose sides hard! The longer this goes on, the more decisive we all become. Bottom line, one of these 2 candidates will win. If we want their goals for America, (Hillary and Obama have the same goals for the most part) we will need to get over this...FAST! I don't think this country can survive 4 years of McCain/Bush!
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Old 04-24-2008, 11:34 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Hillary supporters and the media are desperately clinging to the notion that Barack Obama is not electable because he can't win the BIG states. They're now salivating at the prospect that just because Hillary got an expected win in PA, this indicates that she is more worthy. This is wrong. This is very short-sighted. Pathetic wishful thinking.

It was never Obama's strategy win the BIG states. His strategy was to do well enough in the greater number of contests to WIN THE NOMINATION. He is well on his way to doing that despite the spns. Obama is kicking Hillary's butt. What is revealing though is that Hillary Clinton supposedly had all the political savvy. She had access to the political strategists through her husband. They both had a wealth of resources. They had already been through more campaigns. Wouldn't you think Hillary Clinton would be able to muster up a superior campaign strategy to WIN THE NOMINATION? Her defeat is INEVITABLE because Obama has proven superior. He's a better decision-maker. Far more sophisticated. Far better at bringing together the right people to be effective at accomplishing the goal at hand.

So you Obama haters continue to desperately spin, whine, and dream, focusing on the meaningless, while Obama collects delegates and forces the remaining superdelegates to vote the will of the people and come to his side. We're almost at the end, and Hillary has to decidedly win every remaining contest. Not gonna happen!

Barack wins.

If obama is so supierior he should have won by now. By your logic, McCain is obviously the best candidate for the job.
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Old 04-24-2008, 11:50 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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If obama is so supierior he should have won by now. By your logic, McCain is obviously the best candidate for the job.
Obama "won" on Super Tuesday. This is all just a formaility now sponsored by the DNC to give people a chance to participate in the process so their feelings won't be hurt.

McDubya will be easy to beat for Obama. McDubya will spend more time and energy trying to distance himself from Dubya and won't be any more effective against Obama than Hillary was.
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Old 04-24-2008, 11:53 PM
 
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And the arrogant tone of this post is another reason why Hillary supporters will refuse to vote for Obama in November. I don't think that I will vote for Obama ever thanks to people like you. The arrogance of Obama's campaign is such a turnoff. And if he wins, it will only be become he'll have spent more on his campaign than any other presidential candidate in US history. But I refuse to be bought. And no Kool-aid for me.
I have a right to be arrogant. I support the superior candidate and he's WINNING and the inevitable nominee. A great man I might add and I'm very proud of him. Feels great to be right.

You support whomever you want. That's your perogative.
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Old 04-25-2008, 12:08 AM
 
Location: AZ
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Obama "won" on Super Tuesday. This is all just a formaility now sponsored by the DNC to give people a chance to participate in the process so their feelings won't be hurt.

McDubya will be easy to beat for Obama. McDubya will spend more time and energy trying to distance himself from Dubya and won't be any more effective against Obama than Hillary was.
God, so many people on this forum have these amazing crystal balls and i cant seem to find any good ones :/

Where do you guys get yours? I tried the chinese made ones but they just dont work! Thats what you get for child labor i guess :/
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Old 04-25-2008, 12:52 AM
miu
 
Location: MA/NH
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I have a right to be arrogant. I support the superior candidate and he's WINNING and the inevitable nominee. A great man I might add and I'm very proud of him. Feels great to be right.
I'm not sure why you don't understand how Obama supporters like you are actually hurting your cause. And since you don't understand that, then you aren't as smart as you think you are...

And your reaction is typical of the average rabid male sports fan. You identify with your team. When they are winning, you think that it makes you a better person, when it actually doesn't change anything about you. It's all in your head. I pity you.
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Old 04-25-2008, 01:16 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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God, so many people on this forum have these amazing crystal balls and i cant seem to find any good ones :/

Where do you guys get yours? I tried the chinese made ones but they just dont work! Thats what you get for child labor i guess :/
I get mine from the current tally of delegates and popular vote between the 2 candidates.

Reality, my friend. Live in it.
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