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Old 05-12-2020, 05:52 AM
 
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President Trump is +6 in the latest Texas poll, and +2.5 on average.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...iden-6818.html
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Old 05-12-2020, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Do people reasonably think Biden can win? Biden in his current dementia and mental decline state?

I honestly think the percentage of people who will vote for "anyone at all other than Trump" is a core Trump hating group of the left and Democrats, maybe 25-30% on that side.

If Biden IS somehow elected, his VP will be President soon, as Biden will most likely have to step down due to advancing dementia.

This will result in a woman as President for the first time, so I think that is why the Democrats and left are drooling and so giddy about Biden winning--they are looking WAY past Biden.

Biden hasnt been out of his basement since March 10th according to his Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/pg/joebiden/events/

He has NO future events scheduled!

I think he knows he's going to be replaced by the DNC, so he's thrown in the towel. He's tired of playing the game. It's not worth making himself vulnerable to C-19.
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Old 05-12-2020, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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This is not good for team orange.

Down in AZ by 9.

this is going to be a bloodbath.
About as reliable as a poll showing Trump up by 50 pts in Cali.
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Old 05-12-2020, 07:19 AM
 
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President Trump is +6 in the latest Texas poll, and +2.5 on average.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...iden-6818.html
Emerson polls show how unlikely it is for Trump to win the national popular vote. In 2016, Trump won Texas by 9 while losing California by 30. Clinton carried California by 4.3 million votes while Trump carried Texas by 800,000. The last time a Republican carried the popular vote he received a larger margin in Texas than the Democrat had in California.

Trump’s lead in TX in all polls is smaller than in 2016, while the D lead in thiss poll in California is exactly the same as in 2016.

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Old 05-12-2020, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I think it's very unlikely that TX will not go for tRump in November. And I have no doubt that our empty suit senator Cornyn will be re-elected.

But the gap is continually narrowing and the steady influx of younger folks from out of state, combined withe the ever growing Latino population makes a purple future almost certain.

When that happens, the GOP is just about done as a national party. They have no other "big state" with a truckload of electoral votes to reliably take TX's place.

It's a self-inflicted wound.

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Old 05-12-2020, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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When that happens, the GOP is just about done as a national party.
At least with their current platform. They can always change to be more in line with the views of a majority of Americans if they want to retain viability as a party. This path has always been available, but they may now be forced to take it.
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Old 05-12-2020, 10:58 AM
 
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At least with their current platform. They can always change to be more in line with the views of a majority of Americans if they want to retain viability as a party. This path has always been available, but they may now be forced to take it.
The problem is that the longer they wait as a party to pivot to take positions more attractive to minorities and white college graduates, the more they solidify the Democrats edge in those growing demographic groups with younger voters.

Chasing a dying demographic is never a viable long-term political strategy.
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Old 05-12-2020, 11:03 AM
 
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I think it's very unlikely that TX will not go for tRump in November. And I have no doubt that our empty suit senator Cornyn will be re-elected.

But the gap is continually narrowing and the steady influx of younger folks from out of state, combined withe the ever growing Latino population makes a purple future almost certain.

When that happens, the GOP is just about done as a national party. They have no other "big state" with a truckload of electoral votes to reliably take TX's place.

It's a self-inflicted wound.

I don’t expect for Texas to be that close in 2020, but I will be watching to see if Trump’s winning margin in 2020 will be narrower than the 9% margin of 2016, or if Johnson voters who refused to vote for Trump in 2016 return to the fold.
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Old 05-12-2020, 11:16 AM
 
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Do people reasonably think Biden can win? Biden in his current dementia and mental decline state?

I honestly think the percentage of people who will vote for "anyone at all other than Trump" is a core Trump hating group of the left and Democrats, maybe 25-30% on that side.

If Biden IS somehow elected, his VP will be President soon, as Biden will most likely have to step down due to advancing dementia.

This will result in a woman as President for the first time, so I think that is why the Democrats and left are drooling and so giddy about Biden winning--they are looking WAY past Biden.
The only problem with your analysis is that the "anyone but Trump, Trump-hating group" is more like 50% of the electorate. The "lesser of two evils" group that voted for Trump in 2016 may pick Biden, because he is not hated anywhere near the way they hated Hillary.
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Old 05-12-2020, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Texas
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At least with their current platform. They can always change to be more in line with the views of a majority of Americans if they want to retain viability as a party. This path has always been available, but they may now be forced to take it.
If Pubs move even a millimeter left, their precious religious lunatic fringe will invoke divine vengeance.

They voluntarily chose to wear the yoke of fake christianity and it's leading them to irrelevance on the national level.

Pubs + religious right = deserve each other.

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