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1. Will Trump increase his support among non-college whites to make up for the number of deaths among his voters since 2016? Non-college white voters nationally lose 2% to 3% of registered voters every 4 years, and have for over 20 years. The only way to make that up without expanding your base is through increased turnout and/or winning them by a higher percentage than 2016. Non-college whites are by far the oldest demographic group in the country and their decline in registered voting share disproportionately affects the Republicans because they receive the lion’s share of their vote. The number of white non-college voters in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin who have died since 2016, dwarfs Trump’s winning margins in those three key states.
2. Can Trump maintain the level of support he received in 2016 from college educated voters in the suburbs? Losses in the suburbs is what cost the GOP control of the House in 2018.
3. Can Trump increase his level of support among minority groups or count on them not increasing their turnout?
Trump can win but without expanding the base beyond where it is now, it will get increasingly more difficult for other R nominees going forward. As Jeff Flake stated, Trump has driven the Republican Party into a demographic cul-de-sac.
Of course Flake the RINO snake is going to say that but what exactly has Trump done to “drive the Republican Party into a demographic cul-de-sac?”
Nominating conservative judges? Enforcing immigration laws? Renegotiating unfair trade deals? Strengthening our military? Reforming the dysfunctional VA to a VA that is now functional? Lowering taxes? Repatriating trillions of overseas dollars back into the U.S. economy?
Are these things really that horrible? These are all Republican dreams and Trump finally managed to do it in less than 3 short years despite unprecedented Democrat resistance.
The Republican Party was in bad shape before Trump and Trump literally brought it back to life.
I'm a former Republican. I find Trump so amoral and obnoxious, and his policies so all over the map, that I can't tolerate him and I don't care for his supporters in Congress, either.
If Trump weren't anti-Nato, and if Trump weren't pro-Putin, I guess I could deal with him more than I could deal with Biden, but I'm a kid of the Cold War era and just can't stomach Russia moving in on Eastern Europe again.
I'll be voting for Justin Amash.
So when Trump loses his bid for re-election this fall, I'll be:
* Gleeful to see that jerk get his comeuppance.
* Angry that the GOP sold its soul to the devil and lost a lot of legislative seats, governorships and the presidency. The GOP could have had a 2-term president and held more political offices if Jeb Bush or someone else had won the nomination in 2016.
* Fearful that crazy Democrats will run the country even more into the ground, driven by their hatred of (1) religion (see Bill DeBlasio's recent comments) and (2) various disfavored demographic groups.
How will you feel when Trump loses?
Here's one of your first Politics and Other Controversies posts...
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Originally Posted by GVLNATIVE
CNN says that Trump's approval rating has gone up, to 49%, due to views of how he's handled coronavirus.
I find that astounding: he said it's a hoax, did nothing while the virus grew and the country is now in an economic meltdown. Could anyone have been worse than Donald Trump on this point?
So, besides being a wet-behind-the-ears-newbie here, welcome to City Data Forums.
You are most informed about Trump and his stance to the Covid-19 Virus.
He shut China down pronto and took a lot of heat for it.
So, I have my own opinion about how the 2020 Election will go, and I will just say we are not on the same page.
Happy Voting though. You can go ahead and waste your vote. Trump won't need it, I promise you.
There's another that says 67%, but I dont want to spend all night looking for it, so this one will have to do.
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Originally Posted by Donna-501
That is from February.
Oh, why let a little thing like using information from 2.5 months ago before the world was turned on its head stop someone from proving a point? This is CD people! Two can play at that game.
I'm a former Republican. I find Trump so amoral and obnoxious, and his policies so all over the map, that I can't tolerate him and I don't care for his supporters in Congress, either.
If Trump weren't anti-Nato, and if Trump weren't pro-Putin, I guess I could deal with him more than I could deal with Biden, but I'm a kid of the Cold War era and just can't stomach Russia moving in on Eastern Europe again.
I'll be voting for Justin Amash.
So when Trump loses his bid for re-election this fall, I'll be:
* Gleeful to see that jerk get his comeuppance.
* Angry that the GOP sold its soul to the devil and lost a lot of legislative seats, governorships and the presidency. The GOP could have had a 2-term president and held more political offices if Jeb Bush or someone else had won the nomination in 2016.
* Fearful that crazy Democrats will run the country even more into the ground, driven by their hatred of (1) religion (see Bill DeBlasio's recent comments) and (2) various disfavored demographic groups.
How will you feel when Trump loses?
"How will you feel when Trump loses?" Don't have to think about it because is isn't going to happen.
How will you feel when Trump wins, AGAIN?
Going to go back out into the streets crying and screening becuae you couldn't handle getting your way, like some spoiled little brat? Take your crayons and Play -Do with you? Call your therapist?
YOUR party members have shown how they react when they lose the last time.
WE lived through 2 terms of clinton, 2 terms of obama, you can live through 2 terms of Trump.
Trump isn’t anti-NATO. He’s anti- other NATO countries sponging on us while we spend billions defending THEM. Even the NATO head complimented Trump for being the first U.S. president to get the other freeloading countries to finally pay their fair share. NATO is now stronger for it.
And we are living in a new era. The biggest threat this new century is looking like it will be China. Being friendly with a Russia will serve us better strategically than being antagonistic with them.
Anyway, the biggest threat to our country is from within. The Democrats want to fundamentally change this country, by blowing the doors wide open and radically changing the demographics of this country. They will also slide us further into another form of socialism, although they’ll call it something else to fool your average American.
Trump is what will keep at least this country for the time being from sliding further left, and somewhat centered. But in order for Trump to get anything done, he will need help from Congress and that means people need to give him a Senate and House that are Republican majority.
"Being friendly with a Russia will serve us better strategically than being antagonistic with them."
It is noted how the left fawned all over putin and his people when obama was president. The infamous red re-set button, "after the election I will have more latitude" etc.
BUT, when Trump tries to establish "better relations" with them, he is a traitor!
Stopping free trade, dictating what businesses can and cannot do and spending gobs of money have traditionally been leftist causes. Trump has done all of those things.
Trump didn't even undo Obamacare when Republicans controlled EVERYTHING before 2018.
You need to broaden your sources for the news. Whatever you are using is NOT giving you all the facts.
With your first sentence, I said to myself "Look, a level headed human being - conservative or not." And then the rest of it was just backhanded insults. So yeah, in reality, you'll be sour if he loses. However, we got a little under 6 months before we know the answer.
"And then the rest of it was just backhanded insults" and many on the left just flat out openly insult!
Will Donald Trump lose? Seems unlikely. The Dems picked a terrible candidate again. The only reason that Trump is President right now is because the Dems nominated Hitlery Clinton. If Trump wins again, it'll be because the Dems just nominated an equally terrible candidate.
I too am a former Republican, but my frustrations with the GOP are somewhat opposite from yours.
Free trade isn't free trade when the other country is lying, cheating and stealing their way to success. The thing that drove me nuts for years was the fact that both Democrats and Republicans said they'd do something about outsourcing and offshoring of American jobs. They didn't do jack squat.
They both said they'd do something about the illegal immigrant problem, but didn't do jack squat.
They both said they'd do something about prescription manufacturers highly abusive, extortive behavior. Once again, they didn't do jack squat.
The GOP at least said they'd do something about the escalating federal debt. They didn't do jack squat.
People like Ron Paul did a good job of pointing out that we should cease and desist all military operations outside the USA because it was trillions of dollars that could be better used elsewhere, or better yet, not spent at all. Neocons are completely opposed to the idea. They want more worldwide military projection, not less.
People like Ron Paul did a good job pointing out all the ridiculous abuses by NATO, WHO, the UN and other international organizations. We paid in. Nobody else paid more than a tiny token amount.
We hand out foreign aid to hundreds of countries, treating it like an allowance to teenage children. "Do what I told you or no allowance." Neither party shows any sign of ending this idiotic practice.
The Republicans are constantly giving lip service to downsizing the entire federal government, but they never do a damn thing.
As a rule, Republicans are a bunch of spineless wimps. They can be cowed just by being called names or having unsubstantiated allegations thrown at them. Do you think the Dems would have let a SCOTUS nominee of theirs go through what Brett Kavanaugh was put through? No, they'd have said, "F-- you!" and confirmed him inside of a week.
Trump is a welcome surprising success story on several of these issues. He's sticking up or the USA in trade relations. He's actually doing something on immigration. He's doing something about outsourcing. He's telling international organizations and allies, "enough is enough" and putting an end to the ridiculous freeloading relationships. Trump is at least less of a wimp. He's better than either party on pulling back on US military projection all over the globe. Your typical D or R would have jumped into war with Iran and escalated things in Syria. He could do a helluva lot better. He's completely terrible when it comes to the debt and completely useless when it comes to downsizing useless pieces of the federal government. He seems to be letting himself be talked into letting a lot of really bad criminals go free, and this isn't good either.
On the whole, he's better than what either party was offering. I never liked Trump the TV personality. Always seemed like an obnoxious blowhard to me. I didn't vote for him in 2016. At this point, I think he's earned my vote for 2020. Still don't like him, but it's better than any other option at this point.
" The only reason that Trump is President right now is because the Dems nominated Hitlery Clinton."
NONE of their choices could have beaten Trump.
"that we should cease and desist all military operations outside the USA" we have tried being isolationists before. How did that work out?
To say I do NOT agree with most your opinions, is putting it too mildly.
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