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Old 09-01-2020, 02:16 PM
 
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Trump is outperforming 2016 with hispanics.

Biden is under performing with them.

Nevada is in play.
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Old 09-01-2020, 02:17 PM
 
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Trump will win Ohio by 10

It's not a swing state anymore
If he wins it, it'll be by 5 or less.
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Old 09-01-2020, 02:21 PM
 
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/05/op-e...an-fix-it.html

https://www.vox.com/2020/7/2/2130848...te-trump-biden
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Old 09-01-2020, 02:25 PM
 
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Trump is not going to make Virginia competitive. It's solid blue now. It wasn't even close in 2016. Polling in NH, MN and Nevada has been light, but what there has been has been pretty bad for Trump.

You are definitely missing some likely Biden states- namely at least 1-2 of the MI, WI, PA combo. Florida and NC are still possibilities, as is Arizona.
Virginia's governor is not liked, the closeted racist dude Northam. He's pro late term abortion, pretty anti 2nd amendment and Virginia has only been "blue" since 2004's election. The DC suburban counties, Richmond and parts of Norfolk are blue. There's a huge red portion of VA--and they are voting in full force.

Clinton won in 2016 with about 222,000 votes over Trump. Trump can narrow that gap, and I think he will.

As for Florida, that's not voting Biden--too many old folks. NC is not happening either for Biden--solidly red.

Michigan, Wisconsin will both go Trump. Pennsylvania may be tighter, but Trump should carry it.

Sleepy Biden's toast man. "Come on man!" in the words of Biden. LOL
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Old 09-01-2020, 02:30 PM
 
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Harris and associates running the campaign lose all the swing states. The deep blue states they might still win are in the single digits, maybe zero.
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Old 09-01-2020, 02:36 PM
 
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HARRIS/biden has already got the state of Hades locked up!!
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Old 09-01-2020, 02:51 PM
 
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I appreciate the links (see, that wasn't so hard!), but there are some questions/issues with this.

For the 2nd link, it's comparing exit polls to a single survey taken nearly 4 months before the election, which isn't a direct comparison. We won't have a direct comparison until the actual election.

With the first link, it suggests a decline in support February-July, but give no links to any polling showing that supposed decline. They do link to one survey where Biden leads Trump by 35 points with Latinos, but they do not give comparative numbers from 2016 or from earlier in the year, so there's really no way to verify that based on the link.

A more recent poll a few weeks ago put Biden ahead by 42 points, or the same number that Clinton had. https://latinodecisions.com/wp-conte...249.1597871649

Again, though, it's difficult to discern trends because polling is done at different times by different pollsters, and election day voting is different than polls taken before that. I guess we'll see what happens.
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Old 09-01-2020, 02:58 PM
 
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Virginia's governor is not liked, the closeted racist dude Northam. He's pro late term abortion, pretty anti 2nd amendment and Virginia has only been "blue" since 2004's election. The DC suburban counties, Richmond and parts of Norfolk are blue. There's a huge red portion of VA--and they are voting in full force.

Clinton won in 2016 with about 222,000 votes over Trump. Trump can narrow that gap, and I think he will.

As for Florida, that's not voting Biden--too many old folks. NC is not happening either for Biden--solidly red.

Michigan, Wisconsin will both go Trump. Pennsylvania may be tighter, but Trump should carry it.

Sleepy Biden's toast man. "Come on man!" in the words of Biden. LOL
And yet all polling out of Virginia has Biden up double-digits. You are free to think that's overdone, but Trump isn't make the state competitive even if that were the case. 222,000 votes was with depressed Democratic turnout and one of the most hated politicians ever.

There were "too many old folks" in Florida in 2008 and 2012. That's not a serious argument.

NC is one of the 3 swing states are mostly likely to stick with Trump- the other 2 are Iowa and Ohio.

MI, WI and PA all continue to poll outside of the margin Trump moved them in 2016. There is no reason to believe polling is off that much, especially when pollsters are all already baking in supposed "shy Trump support".
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Old 09-01-2020, 03:00 PM
 
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Harris and associates running the campaign lose all the swing states. The deep blue states they might still win are in the single digits, maybe zero.
Some of you aren't even trying. Yeah, I'm sure Biden will win NY, CA and Illinois by single digits.

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Old 09-01-2020, 03:19 PM
 
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I thought Colorado is pretty much Republican. Nevada, prob. Biden
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