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Old 09-01-2020, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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I like the Op's analysis, so I'll go with it. It wont be 100% perfect, but very close based upon the as is right now.

Let's revisit this thread after the debates.
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Old 09-01-2020, 04:45 PM
 
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Virginia is not in play. We hate Trump and like our governor.
https://augustafreepress.com/analysi...election-race/

you hate trump and love your governor. Sane folks in Virginia don't.
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Old 09-01-2020, 04:46 PM
 
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I dunno man.

Polling is not accurate, my friend.

Take it with a grain of salt.
Clinton overpreformed her polling average by vote share in every state but Wisconsin. Biden at 52 nationally much worse then Clinton leading from 45/46%

Polls were not that far off.

Plus they learned and adjusted their No College/College White vote weightings to reflect they divergence of those two groups following 2016

Makes more sense then trusting my hunch
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Old 09-01-2020, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Clinton overpreformed her polling average by vote share in every state but Wisconsin.

Polls were not that far off.

Plus they learned and adjusted their No College/College White vote weightings to reflect they divergence of those two groups following 2016

Makes more sense then trusting my hunch
I wouldn't trust polls, for either side.

It gives a false sense of security and you only set yourself up for disappointment.

There's just 8 weeks left until election day. An eternity in politics but it will go by FAST.

We will see what happens, but it does not look good for the Biden campaign, at least as of early September.
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Old 09-01-2020, 04:50 PM
 
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"NBC/WSJ Poll: Third party voters from 2016 are backing Biden 2-to-1"

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actually elliott, 33% of third party voters in 2016 did not choose trump or biden in this poll.

National Poll Among Gary Johnson Or Jill Stein Voters:

Biden 47%
Others 33%
Trump 20%

NBC/WSJ
Okay, but the quote I cited is still correct, those 3rd party voters who do choose a mainstream candidate pick Biden by over a 2-to-1 ratio over Trump. In 2016 3rd party got 5.7% of the vote. There were a total of 136.6 million votes cast in 2016, so total 3rd party was 7.8 million votes. Using the poll numbers

3.6 million go to Biden
2.6 million stay 3rd party/undecided
1.6 million go to Trump

Trump can't afford to give up 2 million votes when he lost the popular vote last time. This is not good news for Trump.
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Old 09-01-2020, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Virginia is not in play. We hate Trump and like our governor.
https://augustafreepress.com/analysi...election-race/
Well good for you.

But Governor Northam is worst of the worst, in my opinion.

How can a governor be universally praised when he publicly supports late term abortions, and has a yearbook photo appear with him in black face and he blatantly lies about it, thinking he has folks fooled that it wasn't him?

I have quite a few friends and family in the south central and south west parts of Virginia, and they despise Northam and are embarrassed by him.

He does not represent Virginia well.
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Old 09-01-2020, 04:54 PM
 
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I wouldn't trust polls, for either side.

It gives a false sense of security and you only set yourself up for disappointment.

There's just 8 weeks left until election day. An eternity in politics but it will go by FAST.

We will see what happens, but it does not look good for the Biden campaign, at least as of early September.
More like 6 weeks. NC is sending out ballots starting next week!
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Old 09-01-2020, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Austin
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"NBC/WSJ Poll: Third party voters from 2016 are backing Biden 2-to-1"



Okay, but the quote I cited is still correct, those 3rd party voters who do choose a mainstream candidate pick Biden by over a 2-to-1 ratio over Trump. In 2016 3rd party got 5.7% of the vote. There were a total of 136.6 million votes cast in 2016, so total 3rd party was 7.8 million votes. Using the poll numbers

3.6 million go to Biden
2.6 million stay 3rd party/undecided
1.6 million go to Trump

Trump can't afford to give up 2 million votes when he lost the popular vote last time. This is not good news for Trump.
no doubt if 47% of third party voters in 2016 vote for biden in 2020 those voters might make a big difference in the electoral college for biden in some states like michigan for example.

the popular vote is irrelevant. you must know that, elliott.
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Old 09-01-2020, 05:14 PM
 
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the popular vote is irrelevant. you must know that, elliott.

I'm really not sure if he does. He wouldn't be the first Democrat to be stuck in the popular vote pipe dream.
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Old 09-01-2020, 05:20 PM
 
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I'm really not sure if he does. He wouldn't be the first Democrat to be stuck in the popular vote pipe dream.
States add up to the nation. The National vote doesn’t move independent of the constituent states.

You aren’t going to see an EV/PV split at a 12% margin, most likely at 6% there isn’t going to be a split at 1% Biden there likely will be a split.
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