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Old 09-02-2020, 01:38 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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the largest voting block in america, the white working class, was "an integral and important constituency of the democratic party" for generations. they no longer are because democrats did not "address their needs and wants politically". these voters have been called deplorables, racists, uneducated, nazis and worse by democrat politicians and their surrogates for their choice in 2016.
This argument doesnt really work when your side indeed includes people who think caring about black people = hating white people.

Also, if you are against name calling, then be against it. call your side out when they do it too.
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Old 09-02-2020, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Black voters have in the past voted democrat. it will be interesting to see who these voters choose for president in 2020. Those that do reject the democratic party in 2020 and vote for trump, will they be required to "apologize, justify or explain"? I wonder.
Well, it's just that white conservative often chastize black voters for heaviliy going Democratic by snide remarks like "being on the Plantation, mindless, and other insults. You want black votes? Work for them.
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Old 09-02-2020, 03:18 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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Isn't the overall American average about 57% of eligible voters in POTUS election years?
Close, about 60% in presidential elections, 40% in midterm elections. Get people off their butts and the outcome could change drastically. This is why there is ballot harvesting.
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Old 09-02-2020, 03:24 PM
 
Location: southern california
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Black and brown pull together whites are rugged individualists
We used to pull together too but that was before Hollywood super heros
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Old 09-02-2020, 03:39 PM
 
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Past behavior is a predicate for future behaviors. Well THAT theory went straight out the window and into the sewer in the 2016 election. The very groups demographically being targeted flipped .
From heritage /culture identified to economic groupings.
I still recall in Florida the Hispanic community pledging towards Clinton, then bam! Flipped to the dark side.
Clearly a new diagram of groupings is forming one which is transparent and polarized.
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Old 09-02-2020, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Biden never lost the majority in South Carolina, turnout alone shows you that, you simply are angry they
didnt vote for your guy and for some reason think Clyburn had this giant affect, he didnt.
They were already rallying behind Biden, Clyburn shored up his support. It seems to suggest blacks vote in a singular bloc or at least more so compared to other demographics.

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Your assumption was wrong, or you are very old, in which your assumption was true because racist prevented black people from voting.
I'm very young, but I can tell blacks vote in lower percentages than other demographics which suggests the whole narrative that "blacks vote because they need to survive and other privileged groups don't understand" doesn't work.


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The real question is, why do you , a white guy from New Hampshire, keep attacking black people, or care how we vote ?
Immigrants from the Asiatic world are far more racist than white people, you should keep that in mind.

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Your comments are condescending.
Politicians have power and use it to belittle wide swaths of the population, I on the other hand have no power at all.
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Old 09-02-2020, 03:44 PM
 
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Or is it just media rhetoric.

I think they vote pretty homogeneously (when Clyburn told them to vote Biden, the voted Biden)

But how many of them actually vote? I grew up with the assumption only a low percentage of them were involved.

In that case what is with all the argumentative backing from progressives that blacks are highly informed voters who know exactly whats going on.

Is this just patronizing racial pandering to shore up support for the democratic establishment or are black people a major power bloc in America now?

Even republicans talk about winning 20-30% of the African American vote as if it would be one of their largest victories ever.

It seems condescending, especially if its not true.
Black people vote more than any other minority. And many people see the Black vote as anathema because of the high rate of supporting Democrats.
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Old 09-02-2020, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Immigrants from the Asiatic world are far more racist than white people, you should keep that in mind.
Wow. You're 2 for 2 in being condenscending, if not insulting, to two ethnic groups. I happen to be Asian American and I take exception with your comment.

Look, if you're so concerned about how certain groups vote in elections, why aren't you out and about canvassing or talking to them instead of talking smack?
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Old 09-02-2020, 04:38 PM
 
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I don't care who someone else votes for because that is their business, no matter what color they happen to be.
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Old 09-02-2020, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Wow. You're 2 for 2 in being condenscending, if not insulting, to two ethnic groups. I happen to be Asian American and I take exception with your comment.

Look, if you're so concerned about how certain groups vote in elections, why aren't you out and about canvassing or talking to them instead of talking smack?
I don't care enough, and I won't be able to change their mind.

It is fascinating how politicians and media are building a false perception of black voters for their own ends.
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