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Old 09-07-2020, 08:03 PM
 
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Nationwide polls don't mean anything you know that right? Fortunately we don't pick a president via a popular nationwide vote. The state polls are all over the place and I wouldn't put much trust in them.
They do mean something. If Biden wins the pop vote by 2% or 3%, Trump can win, but If he loses by 5 or 6%, it’s extremely unlikely that he will prevail in the Electoral College.

As far as accuracy is concerned, in 2016 the RCP average was only 1.1% off the actual. If Trump goes into Election Day down by 5 or 6 he must pray that the national polls are off a lot more than 2016. Otherwise he will most probably lose.
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Old 09-07-2020, 08:05 PM
 
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Polls are meaningless, and have been for at least the last 4 elections.

The polls cannot help Biden during the debates. His feeble mental state will be on full display, and one or two meltdowns is all it will take to make everyone realize he's not the man for the job.
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Old 09-07-2020, 08:07 PM
 
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And OP, two liberal polls shouldn't indicate what is going to happen. Biden's lead on RCP has dropped from an average of +10 June 24 to +7.1 today. Your OP is misleading.
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Old 09-07-2020, 08:11 PM
 
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They do mean something. If Biden wins the pop vote by 2% or 3%, Trump can win, but If he loses by 5 or 6%, it’s extremely unlikely that he will prevail in the Electoral College.

As far as accuracy is concerned, in 2016 the RCP average was only 1.1% off the actual. If Trump goes into Election Day down by 6 or 7, he must pray that the national polls are off a lot more than 2016.
The latest Emerson poll has Trump only down by 2 points. That is a better rated poll by 538 (A-) than the polls that have Biden at +10 (B/C).
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Old 09-07-2020, 10:43 PM
 
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Latest Polls on RCP Joe Biden Leading +10


Wow, that's almost as far ahead as Hillary was four years ago today!

Remind me, how did that election come out?
The RCP average has Biden at +7.1. At this point in 2016, Hillary was at +2.1. This information is readily available on RCP. More importantly, Biden has been polling in the high 40s to low 50s vs Clinton in the low to mid 40s, meaning there is very little room for undecideds to sway the race last minute to give Trump the strategic razor-thin margins needed to win in the EC. This race has been incredible stable since the summer and it is a very different election vs 2016. Hope this helps.
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Old 09-08-2020, 12:01 AM
 
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And OP, two liberal polls shouldn't indicate what is going to happen. Biden's lead on RCP has dropped from an average of +10 June 24 to +7.1 today. Your OP is misleading.
What is is a "Conservative poll"? Do you consider Rasmussen to be "Liberal" Here is a report from 9/2 I quoted from the Rasmussen report 49% to Biden 45% for Trump 3% undecided. That was before the Atlantic story.

"A week ago, Biden and Trump were in a near tie – 46% to 45%. The former vice president has bested Trump in every weekly survey to date. The president has never earned more than 45% of the vote and doesn’t appear to have gotten any kind of bounce from last week’s Republican National Convention".

That should be a concern for Trump. This thread is about the latest polling data which is reflecting the "losers & Suckers" comment Trump made so far 2 polls have come out showing 10% for Biden.


https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...se_watch_sep02
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Old 09-08-2020, 08:34 AM
 
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"... The president has never earned more than 45% of the vote and doesn’t appear to have gotten any kind of bounce from last week’s Republican National Convention".

That should be a concern for Trump.
Indeed.

This is a clear indication of how polarizing that dumpster fire of a president has been. Elections are won in the margins, and by now, there is barely any margin left. Almost everyone has been decided since well before the conventions (remarkable in itself), they appear to be not even curious.

Both conventions were like preaching to the choir. The persuadable undecided were such a small number of people that it didn't register.
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Old 09-08-2020, 08:46 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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RCP doesn't count, although all the polls they use are accurate.
No one cares what "Adults" think or how "registered voters" feel.
130M people in our country of 315M will vote. And those people support Trump by 50%.
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Old 09-08-2020, 08:49 AM
 
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And tied in Pennsylvania. You should be afraid.
And has Biden up by 4 in Ohio.

There's almost no way that Ohio is more favorable to Biden than Pennsylvania. Rasmussen just sucks as a pollster. Ohio is probably very close and PA is likely closer to Biden +5.
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Old 09-08-2020, 08:50 AM
 
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RCP doesn't count, although all the polls they use are accurate.
No one cares what "Adults" think or how "registered voters" feel.
130M people in our country of 315M will vote. And those people support Trump by 50%.
RCP uses a LOT of C or worse rated polls, but includes very few of the A and B-rated ones.
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