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Old 09-20-2020, 05:31 AM
 
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Four years ago the weatherman said it was going to rain and it didn't. Does that mean all weather forecasts are wrong and can never be trusted again? The Election Graphs website studied all state polls from 2008-2016 and found they were 95% correct. Trump's victory in Wisc, Penn and Mich were among the 5% the polls got wrong. I'll go with the odds that 95% of the state polls in 2020 are correct.
And you probably believe in Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy!
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Old 09-20-2020, 05:41 AM
 
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Four years ago the weatherman said it was going to rain and it didn't. Does that mean all weather forecasts are wrong and can never be trusted again? The Election Graphs website studied all state polls from 2008-2016 and found they were 95% correct. Trump's victory in Wisc, Penn and Mich were among the 5% the polls got wrong. I'll go with the odds that 95% of the state polls in 2020 are correct.
Did you even bother to look into your site?


It is all MATHEMATICAL stuff.



"Does this mean anything? Now why might there be a tendency that persists in three different election cycles for polls to show results closer than they really are? Maybe close races are more interesting than blowouts so pollsters subconsciously nudge things in that direction? Maybe people indicate a preference for the underdog in polls, but then vote for the person they think is winning in the end? I don't know. I don't have anything other than pure speculation at the moment"
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Old 09-21-2020, 09:25 AM
 
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I've said over and over, what did the polls say at this time for the last election? How did it work out?
Glad you feel that history matters.

What did the polls say in 2012?
What did the polls say in 2008?
What did the polls say in 2004?
What did the polls say in 2000? (They had Bush winning by a nose, in case you are curious)
What did the polls say in 1996?
What did the polls say in 1992?
What did the polls say in 1988?
What did the polls say in 1984?
What did the polls say in 1980?

And on and on. If that's your only argument... "What did the polls say?" Then you'd say "Polls are mostly right, so 2016 was an aberration and the assumption is not that it would repeat."
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Old 09-21-2020, 11:01 AM
 
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All hyped no riots in my cities, and none in most cities what happens in 2 blocks of Portland or a few blocks in Seattle who cares solid blue states no gains for Trump. Why do you think polling in Midwest states went up for Biden his message isn't working.

Trump's playing a weak hand he knows it now he attacking the election system that won't fly if Trump was winning why attack the system which will vote you into office.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!

"Hyped?"

We just SET THE ALL TIME RECORD this year with over 2 BILLION DOLLARS (with a B), of insurance claims from the left wing damage that was done this year! There have been over THIRTY PEOPLE MURDERED and hundreds of cops injured during this.

Are you kidding? This type of absolute refusal to acknowledge this stuff is why you will lose this year and why you keep saying "law and order" is a losing message.

You're in the clouds!
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Old 09-21-2020, 11:02 AM
 
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Glad you feel that history matters.

What did the polls say in 2012?
What did the polls say in 2008?
What did the polls say in 2004?
What did the polls say in 2000? (They had Bush winning by a nose, in case you are curious)
What did the polls say in 1996?
What did the polls say in 1992?
What did the polls say in 1988?
What did the polls say in 1984?
What did the polls say in 1980?

And on and on. If that's your only argument... "What did the polls say?" Then you'd say "Polls are mostly right, so 2016 was an aberration and the assumption is not that it would repeat."
Biden isn't going to win. I think you know it deep down, too.

Common sense > polls.
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