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Old 10-19-2020, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Silver Spring, MD
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The polls in 2016 underestimated non college educated voters, the polls in 2020 are taking them into account. It would make sense that Biden is behind where Clinton was but it is more likely that the 2020 are more accurate and Biden is in the lead.
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Old 10-19-2020, 11:18 AM
 
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The polls in 2016 underestimated non college educated voters, the polls in 2020 are taking them into account. It would make sense that Biden is behind where Clinton was but it is more likely that the 2020 are more accurate and Biden is in the lead.

Bottom line is, no one is excited or cares about Biden. He is a ridiculous candidate and a shell, who would be a puppet for total radicals.
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Old 10-19-2020, 11:20 AM
 
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It's CNN..give me a break. SHE has stirred the hatred herself, she is as evil as Cuomo in NY.

Wrong. Trafalgar is a national pollster and called it all correctly for Trump.ALL these polls from the ones you stated are all slanted left just like last time, I hope they all implode this time PLUS Trump doesn't NEED Michigan. He keeps his firewall of Ohio,Florida,NC,Iowa,Arizona which he will he only needs Pa OR Michigan and Wisconsin or Minnesota. He doesn't need them all. I call it now Trump wins 326 EV.
Trafalgar is the only pollster working Michigan in 2020 that was counted in the 2016 RCP average for Michigan -- that's my point. Saying the RCP average for Michigan was wrong last time (it was) ignores the fact that nearly all of the pollsters working the state last time were minor, small players. This time, the major players are working the state, and they were pretty accurate last time (RCP national average, which incorporated these big players, was within 1.1%).

And Trump has a 50% or less chance of winning Florida, NC, Arizona, Georgia and PA, yet he needs to win all of them (unless he wins Michigan, in which case he can lose one of these).

If you genuinely believe Trump will get 326 EC votes, would you be interested in doing a wager? We can draw the line at 310 EC votes. If he gets more than that, you win the bet. If not, I win. Sound fair?
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Old 10-19-2020, 11:21 AM
 
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Bottom line is, no one is excited or cares about Biden. He is a ridiculous candidate and a shell, who would be a puppet for total radicals.
Enthusiasm for Biden doesn't matter. I think he's the most milquetoast candidate we've had in a long time. You know what I am enthusiastic about, though? Voting against Trump.
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Old 10-19-2020, 11:27 AM
 
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Enthusiasm for Biden doesn't matter. I think he's the most milquetoast candidate we've had in a long time. You know what I am enthusiastic about, though? Voting against Trump.

That's it. And, unfortunately, Brand X voting has not historically been effective. But we will all find out in a few weeks.
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Old 10-19-2020, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Placitas, New Mexico
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Enthusiasm for Biden doesn't matter. I think he's the most milquetoast candidate we've had in a long time. You know what I am enthusiastic about, though? Voting against Trump.
Exactly. The Trumpers seem unaware of how powerful a motivation this is.
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Old 10-19-2020, 11:45 AM
 
Location: West Coast U.S.A.
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Yep, and she LOST....hope to god we get a landslide for Trump in this election because with all the cheating going on if it's close the left is gonna claim they won or try and make it seem like they did after the states allow voting to continue days after the election.
Trump got rid of James Comey, the guy who gave him the 2016 election, so the polls are probably correct this time.
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Old 10-19-2020, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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The polls in 2016 underestimated non college educated voters, the polls in 2020 are taking them into account. It would make sense that Biden is behind where Clinton was but it is more likely that the 2020 are more accurate and Biden is in the lead.
This time they just shifted who they poll to the cities and suburbs and RARELY anywhere else. Exactly why they have such goofy polls such as Biden winning Texas and Georgia. It ain't gonna happen.
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Old 10-19-2020, 11:54 AM
 
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This time they just shifted who they poll to the cities and suburbs and RARELY anywhere else. Exactly why they have such goofy polls such as Biden winning Texas and Georgia. It ain't gonna happen.
What is your evidence for this?
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Old 10-19-2020, 01:03 PM
 
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Yep, and she LOST....hope to god we get a landslide for Trump in this election because with all the cheating going on if it's close the left is gonna claim they won or try and make it seem like they did after the states allow voting to continue days after the election.
15 days out, here's how things stand vs 2016:

Pennsylvania:
2016: Clinton +1.9
2020: Biden +4.4

Michigan:
2016: Clinton +3.4
2020: Biden +6.8

Wisconsin:
2016: Clinton +6.5
2020: Biden +6.0

Iowa:
2016: Trump +3.0
2020: Biden +1.2

North Carolina:
2016: Trump +1.0
2020: Biden +2.7

Georgia:
2016: Trump +4.8
2020: Biden +1.2

Florida:
2016: Trump +0.2
2020: Biden +1.4

The only state Trump is "overperforming" vs 2016 is Wisconsin.

Nationally, with 15 days out, Clinton was up by 5.5. Biden is up by 8.9. That late move towards Trump was already happening with about 20 days out. So, we'll see what happens. Maybe there will be a bombshell. However, I think Trump has dropped bombshells on us for 4+ years. I think America is numb to them now.
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