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I don't like either candidate, just as I didn't in 2016. Back then I didn't like the small party candidates, either, so I left president blank. This year I actually find the Libertarian Jo Jorgensen to be a decent choice so will vote for her. In the end, one has to be able to sleep at night, and I couldn't if I voted for Biden or Trump.
I don't like either candidate, just as I didn't in 2016. Back then I didn't like the small party candidates, either, so I left president blank. This year I actually find the Libertarian Jo Jorgensen to be a decent choice so will vote for her. In the end, one has to be able to sleep at night, and I couldn't if I voted for Biden or Trump.
Right, as long as you personally get plenty of rest, the consequences of a national election in which hundreds of thousands of people are dead, the economy is trash, civil unrest is rising and our democracy is under threat mean little.
If you're alive in 30 years and have grandchildren who would you want to tell them you voted for?
You would tell them the truth unless you have mental issues.
I don't think the OP has mental issues.
I held my nose when I voted for Ronald Reagan, but he turned out to be a great president.
I really dislike Donald Trump and long thought I would leave president blank in 2016, but I found it easier to vote for him, given the alternative, than I did Reagan. It was no trouble at all. You may get clarity as you get closer to November.
On the other hand, I could never bring myself to vote for Tom Delay when he was my representative. I voted for the Green Party one time when they were the only ones opposing him. I may have voted for a Libertarian another time.
For 3rd Party voters, it's apparently: "I didn't really care about taking a stand either way, but I did get 8 hours of sleep, so that's something."
Acceding to the mandates of one's own conscience, has some merit to - would you agree? To tell one's grandchildren, "dear, I voted for the lesser of two evils, and that candidate won. The [expletive] through which I and your parents lived through, was due to the winner of that election. And I was among the people who put him there"... seems a bit, well, suboptimal.
Acceding to the mandates of one's own conscience, has some merit to - would you agree? To tell one's grandchildren, "dear, I voted for the lesser of two evils, and that candidate won. The [expletive] through which I and your parents lived through, was due to the winner of that election. And I was among the people who put him there"... seems a bit, well, suboptimal.
Your premise suggests that voting for the lesser of two evils (and I fail to see how Biden is in any way an "evil" outside of this hypothetical) couldn't, in fact, be consistent with following one's own conscience. Biden is not my preferred candidate, and he doesn't support everything I do. But there are far greater considerations than only what I personally support and believe. And I would offer that *only* following one's own personal principles, even as many others are suffering from their lack of consideration for those others, and solely *because* of those principles, kind of undermines the entire point of having them. If someone refuses to ever compromise for the clear greater good, then maybe those people are not as moral and principled as they like to believe.
Your premise suggests that voting for the lesser of two evils (and I fail to see how Biden is in any way an "evil" outside of this hypothetical) couldn't, in fact, be consistent with following one's own conscience. Biden is not my preferred candidate, and he doesn't support everything I do. But there are far greater considerations than only what I personally support and believe. And I would offer that *only* following one's own personal principles, even as many others are suffering from their lack of consideration for those others, and solely *because* of those principles, kind of undermines the entire point of having them. If someone refuses to ever compromise for the clear greater good, then maybe those people are not as moral and principled as they like to believe.
Your premise suggests that voting for the lesser of two evils (and I fail to see how Biden is in any way an "evil" outside of this hypothetical) couldn't, in fact, be consistent with following one's own conscience. ...
If someone refuses to ever compromise for the clear greater good, then maybe those people are not as moral and principled as they like to believe.
It could be consistent. But what if it's not? An argument could be made, that one candidate is so rebarbative and noxious, that his "leadership" can't be stomached... while the other candidate represents a movement and a set of ideas, that one regards as being fundamentally and devastatingly wrong. I leave without elaboration, which is which. To me that's a choice between two evils.
The point isn't about being an intransigent adherent to a strict creed, so that anyone who veers from that creed by any small amount, is automatically dismissed. Rather, the point is the quandary in which one finds oneself, when neither of the principal choices is conscionable. Then what?
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