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Old 10-08-2020, 11:56 AM
 
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Electoral expert Nate Silver has Big Data Poll with an F rating and it is currently banned from 538. I trust Nate Silver more than Baris.
Nate Silver really didn't exist until Obama became president and then was wrong everytime since then... That's who you trust? All I see is an Obamafan that got it right very rarely and became famous...

 
Old 10-08-2020, 12:24 PM
 
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Isn't that what twitter is? Random people spouting opinions?

Atleast that is what I see in all the modern articles, which are basically constructed from random people's tweets.
Yes, which is why Twitter posts shouldn't be directly used as news. It's fine to use them for commentary or opinions, but not presenting them as facts unless there are links to the data itself. Green's twitter links never have any of that data. He simply takes these opinions as conclusions of fact.
 
Old 10-08-2020, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Big Data Poll has not been wrong on a single public poll we’ve released. Not one.

If you’d like to see the emails of us inviting Nate and even the folks at RCP, we’d love to show you. Nobody, no one person, has ever showed up here.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Peoples_P...69229986590720

No evidence they were banned from 538, lol
So you are Baris or someone who works with him, or did you just type the bold wrong. LOL, by the way, you know its against TOS to pretend to be unaffiliated right ?

Also, yes, Big Data is on the 538 banned list

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/

they also only have a 25% accuracy rating. Since their website doesnt show their poll archives, I have to just use google and it looks like they got the FLorida governors race wrong, and the senate right.

It looks like they polled Florida 27th and got it wrong too. 4th race maybe the California governors race, there were a couple of GOP leaning polls which claimed the R was winning there, LOL, this may have been it.

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Old 10-08-2020, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Nate Cohn works for NYT/Upshot


Nate Silver works for Disney/ABC/538

Just pointing that out, LOL
 
Old 10-08-2020, 02:42 PM
 
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Nate Cohn works for NYT/Upshot


Nate Silver works for Disney/ABC/538

Just pointing that out, LOL

They both have no clue what they are doing, lol
 
Old 10-08-2020, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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They both have no clue what they are doing, lol
Both are far more accurate than they guy you support/are/work for ????
 
Old 10-08-2020, 02:45 PM
 
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Both are far more accurate than they guy you support/are/work for ????
Nate Cohn just got destroyed with what I linked, so not really
 
Old 10-08-2020, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Nate Cohn just got destroyed with what I linked, so not really
How, its a population cluster map. If you want to say he should poll people in rural areas more to determine the true gap thats fine, but Mr. Big Data's entire argument is based on an assumption.

He literally starts his thread off by saying "if this is true" because he knows it isnt, and basically just rambled on for his followers.
 
Old 10-08-2020, 02:58 PM
 
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Both are far more accurate than they guy you support/are/work for ????
Nate Bronze, in 2016, did the following:

1. Missed the Republican nominee winner
2. Missed Brexit outcome
3. Missed the Senate majority party winner
4. Missed the House majority party winner
5. Missed the Presidential winner


He literally missed EVERY SINGLE big political event that year.
 
Old 10-08-2020, 02:59 PM
 
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Yes, which is why Twitter posts shouldn't be directly used as news. It's fine to use them for commentary or opinions, but not presenting them as facts unless there are links to the data itself. Green's twitter links never have any of that data. He simply takes these opinions as conclusions of fact.
Sadly it seems they are, feels like the only requirement to be a journalist these days is decide on angle for an article, get a half dozen or so tweets that agree with that angle form the general public, put them in an article and rewrite what's in the tweets, that you captioned within the article, just so everyone can read them twice (I figure) and just write an opening few sentences, maybe even a paragraph if your feeling like an over achiever and there you have it a bonafide journalist in 2020.

No argument from me on that one.
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