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Old 10-08-2020, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Planet Telex
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What’s bizarre is neither Biden nor Kamala Harris got high ratings from their own base either, Harris had less than 4%, Biden was very low too. Then the DNC decided to push for Biden, then Harris was picked. They are not likable candidates, just like Hilary was. But I think the media is pushing for these high poll numbers. .
Biden is nowhere near as unlikable as Hillary was.
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Old 10-08-2020, 10:30 AM
 
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"despite pollsters now weighting their polls to give Trump more support because of what they missed in 2016. "

Another narrative that defies logic.

Yep, oversampling democrats by a ludicious amount is definitely giving Trump more support

Did Nate Silver tell you that? Lol
There are more registered Democrats nationally than Republicans. You hyperventilating over one poll with a D+9 is not representative of most polling, let alone your dismissal that there are, in fact, more Democrats in America.
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Old 10-08-2020, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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Polls aren't always wrong, they are just not very accurate for Trump.

Trump brings back voters who quit voting. I think that mentality also extends to polling, so those people either hang up on the pollster or lie about voting for Biden just to be snippy.

Then there are the people who just think the pollster wants to hear pro-Biden responses, and answer that way even as they plan to vote for Trump. The polling was really off in 2016. We will find out if it is accurate or off for 2020.

So no, I won't write off polling in the future. The next GOP candidate will be an establishment RINO like Romney or McCain -- essentially a liberal republican -- and the polling will probably come back to being accurate for 2025.

Trump is a once-a-generation outlier. It won't happen again in my lifetime.

Besides, in 2024, it is the Democrats turn again, so Gavin Newsom will be president.
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Old 10-08-2020, 10:48 AM
 
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Polls aren't always wrong, they are just not very accurate for Trump.

Trump brings back voters who quit voting. I think that mentality also extends to polling, so those people either hang up on the pollster or lie about voting for Biden just to be snippy.

Then there are the people who just think the pollster wants to hear pro-Biden responses, and answer that way even as they plan to vote for Trump. The polling was really off in 2016. We will find out if it is accurate or off for 2020.

So no, I won't write off polling in the future. The next GOP candidate will be an establishment RINO like Romney or McCain -- essentially a liberal republican -- and the polling will probably come back to being accurate for 2025.

Trump is a once-a-generation outlier. It won't happen again in my lifetime.

Besides, in 2024, it is the Democrats turn again, so Gavin Newsom will be president.
If the polling was off at 2x the margin they were off in 2016, Biden would still win.
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Old 10-08-2020, 01:01 PM
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Location: California
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Seems people don't remember the polls weren't that far off in 2016. The last week before the election showed hillary up 2.5 to 3% overall with momentum not in her favor.
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Old 10-08-2020, 01:10 PM
 
Location: 0.83 Atmospheres
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Every poll on Earth has Biden crushing Trump like a bug.

Trump has NO chance at all of being re-elected, according to the polls.

So, if Trump wins, are you willing to finally toss the pollsters in the trash?
Yep. How will you react if they are right?

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Old 10-08-2020, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Biden is not popular, lmao

Even in the dem areas of my city there are no Biden signs
Yes, that's always the final arbiter.

There are none in my area either, nor are there any Trump signs. Yard signs are foolish, especially in this political climate. They influence no one, and make your house a target for whatever nuts support the other guy.
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Old 10-08-2020, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Yes I would. But only if the polls right before election night are around where they are now, because that would be huge polling error.
Thanks you for answer my question. Much apreciated.
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Old 10-08-2020, 04:29 PM
 
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Every metric has Trump winning so, not really.


Pennsylvania is slipping away from Joe and that's why he's been there the most
Let's talk about your opinion ok?

1. Real Clear Politics average of ten or more polls.. Biden leading Trump by 9.7%

A. Rasmussen Poll has Biden up over Trump by 12%

B. Fox News Poll has Biden up over Trump by 10%

C. Not a single poll has Trump up over Biden out of more than ten listed.

2. Swing State Polls Real Clear Politics. Biden leading Trump by an average of 4.6% in all swing states. What is most telling of all though is that Trump does not have a lead in any swing state except Texas. The only reason Texas is considered a "swing state" is this year Biden is within 3 points of Trump in poll averages taken there. BTW, the average lead for Biden in Pennsylvania is 7.1%

3. 538 Presidential Polls

A. Biden leads Trump by an average of 9.8% today.

B. Trump's approval rating. In the 42% range. His disapproval rating is also 52%, giving Trump a net disapproval rating of 10%

4. Betting Odds

An average of four wagering companies gives Biden a 64% chance of being elected. Trump has a 35% chance.

Americans increasingly see the President they have elected as garbage that needs to be taken to the trash, whether you do or not. I could care less about the silly "metrics" you claim to use.
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Old 10-08-2020, 04:33 PM
 
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After Trump wins the polling industry needs to disappear forever
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