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Old 10-31-2020, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by AnotherTouchOfWhimsy View Post
Agreed... I'm sure it depends on where they come from, but the ones from New England/NY/NJ are generally democrats. I also know quite a few from Michigan/Wisconsin, and I'd say 2/3 lean republican and 1/3 lean democrat. The few I know from Canada are mostly democrat with one republican in the bunch.

Obviously that's just from my personal vantage point.
Yeah, it all really depends. I know a bunch of New Yorkers down here and they're all Republican for instance. But that's because they work in finance, so I suppose that's a factor.
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Old 10-31-2020, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Texas will never be blue

Look at Trump's Hispanic support
His Hispanic support is high among Cuban-Americans and some South Americans, not Mexican or Central Americans (which are the majority of Hispanics).

Not saying TX will turn blue, probably won't. But Trump doesn't do well with the type of Hispanic voters in AZ or TX.

All Hispanics aren't the same.
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Old 10-31-2020, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Florida?
Trump won by 100,000 votes while losing Miami-Dade by 300,000 votes. Trump will do better in Miami-Dade and that will win him the state.


He won Texas by 1.1M votes. It won't be close this year, either. Hillary only won the border areas and Trump will do better in those areas this time.
Margin in Texas was about 797k in 2016, down from 1.26m in 2012. The areas Clinton picked up the most ground in from Obama in 2012 were the metros, Houston, Dallas, Austin and San Antonio That will certainly continue this year. If it will be enough to flip the state remains to be seen, but all the signs are showing the state will be considerably closer this year than 2016.
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Old 10-31-2020, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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He won Texas by 1.1M votes. It won't be close this year, either. Hillary only won the border areas and Trump will do better in those areas this time.
I do expect Trump to win Texas narrowly (no more than 5%), but Clinton carried a number of highly populated counties that are far away from the border. Turnout has been high in counties such as Travis (metro Austin), Dallas (metro Dallas), Harris and Fort Bend (metro Houston), all of which are increasingly solid blue strongholds. Republicans already win the smaller metro/rural non-border areas by huge margins, so Trump doesn't have a lot of room for growth in such places.
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Old 10-31-2020, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Poll of early voters in TX.

Biden 52
Trump 46

https://www.uml.edu/docs/2020-Texas-...m18-331627.pdf

I was told by some on here that Rs were winning the early vote in TX. Looks like that was fake news.
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Old 10-31-2020, 02:38 PM
 
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Texas will turn blue in the next couple decades. It may not be this election, but it is inevitable. Changing demographics and social norms are tides that cannot be changed. If the GOP does not evolve, it will soon learn the fate of a permanent electoral minority.
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Old 10-31-2020, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Latest TX poll on 538 finds a 10 point shift to Ds from 2016. That would be enough to flip the state if accurate.

https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/...ctober2020.pdf

Same sample for both questions.

Q1. How did you vote in 2016?

Trump 49
Clinton 41
Margin: R+8

Q2. How are you voting in 2020?

Biden 50
Trump 48
Margin: D+2

Net shift from 2016 D+10.
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Old 10-31-2020, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Placitas, New Mexico
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Sorry, Even Nate Cohn admitted Trump is getting propped up by Hispanics in Texas
Who the heck is Nate Cohn???
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Old 10-31-2020, 03:37 PM
 
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Disagree. Latinos are smartening up.

They see democrat policies as devastating
Not sure about that.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...p-remains-low/

However, I do read that many Hispanics support Trump as well. Who knows?
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Old 10-31-2020, 03:44 PM
 
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No. Texas might turn blue if the 2 Democrats on the ticket were blue collar conservatives pro life and pro second amendment and low taxes from the south not 2 liberals from Delaware and San Francisco.


A JFK and LBJ Democrats could win Texas but those Democrats are long gone from the party.
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