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Old 01-18-2021, 12:17 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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I voted for Mitt Romney in 2012 and was a John Kasich supporter in 2016. But I guess because I voted against Trump in 2016 and 2020 and I don't go along with the voter fraud conspiracy, I am considered to be a brainwashed leftist?
Yep, yer brainwarshed.
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Old 01-18-2021, 04:49 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Yep - Rachel Rodriguez now jailed for harvesting over 7000 ballots just by herself, and she had 5 other people doing the same!
She's in the slammer now on MULTIPLE FELONY counts!

Now if this was uncovered in a deep RED state where law-enforcement actually does their job,
can you imagine what is being HIDDEN in those states where they are refusing to let anyone even LOOK at the ballots?

With their narrative, the Left has long been desperately trying to 'flip Texas blue' - now it's pretty clear how they do it!


https://conservativesarmy.com/rememb...e-right-scoop/



Care to point out where the article you cite says she's "in the slammer now"?
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Old 01-18-2021, 05:24 AM
 
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Election fraud believers = moon landing hoax believers = UFO believers.

The "evidence" election fraud believers cite is the same kind of, and same caliber of, "evidence" that moon landing hoax believers present as "proof" of their claims, and the same kind of "evidence" that UFO believers present as "proof" of their claims.

It is just a bunch of people seeing things they want to see. They see people in videos doing things and let their imaginations run wild as to what is really happening in the videos. They get people to submit written claims that they saw UFO's/election fraud. And so on, and so forth. It is a mass delusion.
Mass delusion yes. But this delusion is the end result of the skillful propaganda that has been deliberately peddled to the masses for a long, long time. All the way from the clever rantings of Limbaugh on talk radio through the emergence of Fox News after the Fairness Doctrine was abolished, through the weaponization of the Internet by the alt-Right, which we observe right here on C-D.

You are right, it is the same sort of mentality that a "never landed on the moon" or an anti-vaxxer or a Jim Jones cultist might have. But at the end of the day it is far more dangerous, as our Constitutional Republic is dependent on having a rational citizenry.
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Old 01-18-2021, 06:44 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Yep - Rachel Rodriguez now jailed for harvesting over 7000 ballots just by herself, and she had 5 other people doing the same!
She's in the slammer now on MULTIPLE FELONY counts!

Now if this was uncovered in a deep RED state where law-enforcement actually does their job,
can you imagine what is being HIDDEN in those states where they are refusing to let anyone even LOOK at the ballots?

With their narrative, the Left has long been desperately trying to 'flip Texas blue' - now it's pretty clear how they do it!


https://conservativesarmy.com/rememb...e-right-scoop/
She was volunteering for a GOP politician, FYI.

Also, "ballot harvesting" isn't illegal in every state (unfortunately), so a pretty poor example.
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Old 01-18-2021, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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[quote=CCCyou;60184278]Yep - Rachel Rodriguez now jailed for harvesting over 7000 ballots just by herself, and she had 5 other people doing the same!
She's in the slammer now on MULTIPLE FELONY counts!

Now if this was uncovered in a deep RED state where law-enforcement actually does their job,
can you imagine what is being HIDDEN in those states where they are refusing to let anyone even LOOK at the ballots?





So. You people never give up. 7000 votes. Didn't Trump want the Sec. of Georgia to '' find '' 11,000 votes, or '' recalculate '' the vote. Good bye Trump. Enjoy.
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Old 01-18-2021, 08:07 AM
 
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Election fraud believers = moon landing hoax believers = UFO believers.

The "evidence" election fraud believers cite is the same kind of, and same caliber of, "evidence" that moon landing hoax believers present as "proof" of their claims, and the same kind of "evidence" that UFO believers present as "proof" of their claims.

It is just a bunch of people seeing things they want to see. They see people in videos doing things and let their imaginations run wild as to what is really happening in the videos. They get people to submit written claims that they saw UFO's/election fraud. And so on, and so forth. It is a mass delusion.
That is probably the best metaphor out there.

I remember when the moon landing hoax was still a thing (is it?) and a guy named Phil Plait went out of his way to debunk each and every major conspiracy claim. The thing is, a lot of these claims boiled down to ignorance. "Why was the flag waving on the moon when there's no wind to make it wave?" The flag wasn't waving. It was a still photo (how can it be moving in a still photo?). The flag was ruffled while it was stood up and without wind, there was nothing to change the look of it.

What we are seeing today is pretty much the same thing. Believers see some guy unloading boxes from his truck and it is fraudulent ballots coming in from some foreign nation when it turns out the boxes were filled with a photographer's equipment or sandwiches from a deli.

Believers read some story about some guy that died 10 years ago and apparently voted in 2020 and see that as proof that 10M+ ballots must be fraudulent. It could be a guy with the same name happens to be voting. Or the guy's son who left off "junior" since he doesn't want to be called that - so it appears he has the same name. Or in this case, the wife of the dead man votes and signs her name Mrs. James Smith.

They see what they want to see.

I think what IS very telling is an interview I saw last week. A Trump supporter was asked how he'd feel if he was lied to about election fraud and he responded, "I'd never vote for a Republican ever again." And the thing is, I bet many fraud believers would say the same thing. Republican politicans and surrogates are in too deep to back out now. Even with clear evidence that the election was NOT fraudulent, they just refuse to believe it. They grasp onto whatever they can and when Republican politicians keep claiming that the election was fraudulent it gives that notion credibility.

But, don't forget that when these same Republican politicians (Senators and House Reps) are asked if THEIR election was fraudulent and should have another recount or a re-vote... they say NO. That's all you need to hear. Their election was perfectly legit. The ballots that elected them, the very same pieces of paper that selected them were fine, but not for President. If anything, I feel bad for those still stuck in denial. It is going to be a dark place for a long time for them.
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Old 01-18-2021, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Spring Hill, FL
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Wait wait....there was a left candidate? They both look pretty right wing to me?
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Old 01-18-2021, 08:59 AM
 
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There was no widespread fraud. Every court and state along with the federal Dept of Justice and other agencies looked into these allegations and found them to have little credence and merit. These allegations are nothing more than talk and hearsay. Joe Biden was overwhelmingly elected president in a fair election. Those that do not accept this reality are living in a fantasy world.
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Old 01-18-2021, 09:21 AM
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In spite of lots of evidence that there was election fraud and some of it even on video, and that the people who told you there was no election fraud were the same people who lied to you for years about Russian collusion and Ukraine phone calls...we know that the Biden family got rich off of their dealings with China and Russia and Ukraine, that the Clintons got rich off their phony foundation and it's beyond obvious that no one showed up at rallies for Biden or could possibly support him because he has obvious dementia, we are supposed to believe there was no election fraud and that this imbecile who plagiarized many times actually won?
Never. Most of them still believe in the Russia collusion hoax.
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Old 01-18-2021, 09:23 AM
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Hey OP...you don't think this is anything new, do you? Why do you think the city machine systems exist? It might not be Tamannay Hall or King Daley days....but expecting a difference is the only real shocker.
The mail in ballots allow it to exist on a whole 'nother plane.
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