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Old 05-10-2008, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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While I don't really expect any honesty, all the same, take a moment to try 10 sample (from 100) question from the dept of immigration and naturalization in order to become a citizen.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package..._Questions.pdf

While we may never know, YOU will.
Wow. I did pretty good...*didn't remember Woodrow Wilson
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Old 05-10-2008, 02:36 PM
 
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Lets make the attempt to keep this remotely related to the topic which is...

If Only Educated People Were Allowed to Vote.
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Old 05-10-2008, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Ok, If only the educated were allowed to vote, who establishes the standard for what passes as educated? Surely the person who has been on the planet the longest possesses more wisdom, yet may not have attended one of those high fa luting educational places...so who sets the standard and how is it enforced. Do we consequently remove the age requirement, what if a 6 year old can meet the standard?
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Old 05-10-2008, 02:44 PM
 
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Ok, If only the educated were allowed to vote, who establishes the standard for what passes as educated? Surely the person who has been on the planet the longest possesses more wisdom, yet may not have attended one of those high fa luting educational places...so who sets the standard and how is it enforced. Do we consequently remove the age requirement, what if a 6 year old can meet the standard?
Get at least a 70% passing grade on that test I posted and you get a ballot.
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Old 05-10-2008, 02:45 PM
 
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Get at least a 70% passing grade on that test I posted and you get a ballot.
So the age requirements out, how about criminals?
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Old 05-10-2008, 02:47 PM
 
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Should we go back to property owners only being able to vote too? That would change quite a few things.
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Old 05-10-2008, 02:47 PM
 
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I suspect you'd eliminate quite a few people, but you involve quite a few unexpectedly as well.
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Old 05-10-2008, 02:55 PM
 
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So the age requirements out, how about criminals?
Well I personally wouldn't care if a bright and educated 16 year old could vote. Considering our current voting base, I doubt anyone would notice other than the sharp rise in the grading curve

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Should we go back to property owners only being able to vote too? That would change quite a few things.
I think they tried this and it went down in flames. Excludes those folks who are fluid and rent. Although someone did once mention something about a system through federal taxes. After all, the IRS knows if there is 12 bucks missing from your return. (even if they can't verify whether Jose Rodriguez born in 1884 still qualifies for EIC)

Felons are one example of people being excluded from voting and to be frank, I'm not entirely sure why. Most criminals who are never caught go on to very long careers in government service.

Humor aside, I would just be happy if some event cause the general population of America to become more active in the political process, such as taking place this cycle. I admit I rely upon the internet despite its flaws, to be able to offer raw information and let people engage and decide on their own. While they may make some bad choices, in time, just being immersed in the process will lead to better, more aware and educated voters. IMO
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Old 05-10-2008, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Southeast
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If Only Educated People Were Allowed to Vote.
Allowing only educated people to vote comes off as very elitist to me. What you're doing is allowing one group of people control the entire population.

Being 'educated' does not make you better than anyone else; It does not give you the right to pass judgment because of your 'education'.

Being educated also does not mean you automatically know what is best for everyone else, nor does it make your opinion matter more than anyone else's.
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Old 05-10-2008, 03:02 PM
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If Only Educated People Were Allowed to Vote...........this election would have been over a long time ago, and Barack Obama would be the hands-down winner.
Most of the people I know that are pro-Hillary are college educated and are not racist. We've got Harvard, MIT and Wellesley in MA, along with many fine institutions of higher learning and Hillary won the primary handily. And that even with the Kennedys' endorsement. Technically, all the MA super-delegates should switch their support from Obama to Hillary since MA "hands-down" went for Hillary.

If Obama wins, I hope that he takes our Gov. Deval Patrick away from us for some cabinet post. He is close to useless as our governor. He is yet another well educated new to politics politician that is learning as he goes.
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