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Old 05-15-2008, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Texas
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He may think people have short memories and that he can backpedal but, here it is, from the debate in Austin:

Obama would meet with Castro - Mike Allen - Politico.com

"In fact, Obama broadly extended his policy of being willing to meet with dictators without preconditions, while Clinton holds the more traditional position that a U.S. president should hold such negotiations only after extensive groundwork has been done.

“Not just in Cuba, but I think this principle applies generally,” Obama said. “I recall what John F. Kennedy once said: We should never negotiate out of fear, but we should never fear to negotiate. "
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Old 05-15-2008, 04:48 PM
 
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He said he'd meet with Raul, who had not yet shaped up to be another Fidel. Really unprofessional, misleading headline.
“Not just in Cuba, but I think this principle applies generally,” Obama said. “I recall what John F. Kennedy once said: We should never negotiate out of fear, but we should never fear to negotiate.

“And this moment, this opportunity when Fidel Castro has finally stepped down, I think is one that we should try to take advantage of.”
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Old 05-15-2008, 04:49 PM
 
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President Obama(if elected) can talk to anyone he wants. Bush talked to libya dictator. Bush talked with N.Korea dictato and we continue to talk to them. Bush's send his defense sec. wants to talk with Iran dictator and FDR worked and said stalin ---the man who killed more men than hilter-- his person friend. Yes, FDR called stalin---the man who killed more men and women than hilter---is friend. Reagan sold weopons to Iranian, the same goverment who killed american people. Reagan sold woepon to Iran in return for hostages and Reagan help fund a goverment that supports terrorism.

Obama just talking is ok with me.
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Old 05-15-2008, 04:50 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Yeah, so?

Did we meet with Stalin?
Did we meet with Kruschev?
Were they dictators?

And your point is?

Ken
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Old 05-15-2008, 04:52 PM
 
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He may think people have short memories and that he can backpedal but, here it is, from the debate in Austin:

Obama would meet with Castro - Mike Allen - Politico.com

"In fact, Obama broadly extended his policy of being willing to meet with dictators without preconditions, while Clinton holds the more traditional position that a U.S. president should hold such negotiations only after extensive groundwork has been done.

“Not just in Cuba, but I think this principle applies generally,” Obama said. “I recall what John F. Kennedy once said: We should never negotiate out of fear, but we should never fear to negotiate. "

Any chance they'll decide to keep him?
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Old 05-15-2008, 04:53 PM
 
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He said he'd meet with Raul, who had not yet shaped up to be another Fidel. Really unprofessional, misleading headline.
“Not just in Cuba, but I think this principle applies generally,” Obama said. “I recall what John F. Kennedy once said: We should never negotiate out of fear, but we should never fear to negotiate.

“And this moment, this opportunity when Fidel Castro has finally stepped down, I think is one that we should try to take advantage of.”
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Old 05-15-2008, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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Ya know .. I won't vote for Obama, but we need to get over this Cuba crap. For crying out loud, we are the only ones standing in our cold war corner on this issue. And they can't cry commie either. Hello ... China ... hello Vietnam!!! Ugh!!!
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Old 05-15-2008, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Texas
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#6, Read the entire article, please. He said he'd meet with dictators across the board WITHOUT PRECONDITIONS.

Last edited by teatime; 05-15-2008 at 05:04 PM.. Reason: clarification
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Old 05-15-2008, 05:12 PM
 
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He may think people have short memories and that he can backpedal but, here it is, from the debate in Austin:

Obama would meet with Castro - Mike Allen - Politico.com

"In fact, Obama broadly extended his policy of being willing to meet with dictators without preconditions, while Clinton holds the more traditional position that a U.S. president should hold such negotiations only after extensive groundwork has been done.

“Not just in Cuba, but I think this principle applies generally,” Obama said. “I recall what John F. Kennedy once said: We should never negotiate out of fear, but we should never fear to negotiate. "
Once again, he said Castro and not all dictators. Secondly Castro is a dictator and not a terrorist. Secondly American Presidents have been meeting with dictators for ever. Saudi Arabia etc. The issue was not meeting with dictators but meeting with terrorist. Now Cuba being 90 miles away could do one heck of a job exporting terrorism if they want. Other then Panama when is the last time we won a war? If you can't beat your adversary and won't talk to them then what is next a boycott. Wait we need their resources.

Please use the attached identification of countries by government type and let us know which ones President Obama should be allowed to talk with.

List of countries by system of government - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Old 05-15-2008, 05:18 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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I'd like to remind people that one of the reasons that things have FINALLY improved a bit in Iraq is because we MET with former terrorists and convinced (some might say "bribed") some of them to come over to our side - so even the administration only follows that standard selectively.

Ken
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