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You're right that those criticisms do not speak directly to the subject. However, it's like Nixon and his make-up debacle, before you convince people, you have to connect with them. Obama's ability to connect with people-- his superior articulation and timing-- is why he made it this far. However, something else has penetrated the surface... and it's cracked the facade.
He's becoming, IMO, personally repulsive. He throws gutter balls, dribbles too high, calls the "cue" a "white ball". There's church-gate, domestic-terror-gate, bitter-gate, Michelle-gate, flag-lapel-pin-gate, sweetie-gate and now cry-baby/paranoia-gate. Come on, when's it stop? Now, he's even wearing the pin that just makes him looks that much sillier. What in God's name is this guy thinking?
Under all the issues rests judgement. Granted, he voted not to invade Iraq... but why? When everyone else said it makes sense, why was Obama saying it was wrong? Why is he willing to talk when everything else points to a call to arms? It's another angle of his peculiarity. (I want to say "feminine" again, but that would imply something negative about "feminine".)
He's not an oracle who saw Iraq was a bad move. He's a coward who's paralyzed by life/death decisions and seeks to avoid them.
I don't care what the issues are. This guy is spineless. It shows in his refusal to get out of that church, it shows in his flipping on this stupid pin, it shows in how he cries when he might be the topic of a discussion. He is a bona-fide sissy... and you think he's suited to rule this country with what's in front of us?
On the libs best day, you'll find fault with McCain on things like the apparent flip on taxes. However, at the end of the day, McCain's going to kill the bad guys with extreme prejudice while Obama is placating them.
The Chamberlain comment is suited to Obama. He'll give the Arabs Israel to accomodate them.
I have to agree with you. Hillary would do a much better job as POTUS than Obama. I think Obama should run for mayor of San Francisco. That is more his speed!
Then please tell why the bad guys are still alive and producing tapes and blowing up transportation in Europe? Our own leaders tell us that we will be hit again. Can we still count on Pakistan in the war on terror or will we need to be bombing then soon to get at Osama and his home base there. Iran is more or less influential in Iraq? Iran and Syria are more or less influential in Lebanon? Hamas is more or less influential in Gaza and the West Bank? The new coalition of the willing has how many partners fighting with us? Are relationships with the Oil Producing nations has enabled Bush to jaw bone the price of oil DOWN to how much a barrel? Give us more keep us in the status quo it rocks.
Then please tell why the bad guys are still alive and producing tapes and blowing up transportation in Europe? Our own leaders tell us that we will be hit again. Can we still count on Pakistan in the war on terror or will we need to be bombing then soon to get at Osama and his home base there. Iran is more or less influential in Iraq? Iran and Syria are more or less influential in Lebanon? Hamas is more or less influential in Gaza and the West Bank? The new coalition of the willing has how many partners fighting with us? Are relationships with the Oil Producing nations has enabled Bush to jaw bone the price of oil DOWN to how much a barrel? Give us more keep us in the status quo it rocks.
Why are we even worried about intervening in foreign affairs? Shouldn't we fix our country first?
He doesn't have to try it is right there in black and white. I thought it was funny to see McCain yesterday trying to spin this and today low and behold there is a taped interview with McCain stating that they may have to talk to Hamas. Flip flop, Flip Flop What a joke he is.
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McCain has been busy trying to connect himself to Bush so he can bring in the 23% who still support Bush.
I was referring to foreign policy, primarily Iraq, since that is the topic of this thread. Yes, McCain has, and will continue, to contrast what Bush did in Iraq with what McCain was calling for and would have done.
He has connected himself to Bush on policies near and dear to the hearts of conservatives, and to a lesser extent the Christian Right - but on the debate over the war (again, the topic of this thread) he will show in debates that he is not a third Bush term.
Isolationism does not work in 2008. Remember, it is a global economy.
I have no problems with trading with other nations. I don't believe we should be meddling in the internal affairs of those nations. How would you like it if China told started dictating our political process? We do it all over the world. It's time we stop.
I have no problems with trading with other nations. I don't believe we should be meddling in the internal affairs of those nations. How would you like it if China told started dictating our political process? We do it all over the world. It's time we stop.
So we should trade with Egypt and not call on them to release the oppostion from prison? We should trade with Sudan and not call on them to stop funding the Janjaweed? We should trade with China, but not expect them to respect international property rights? We should trade with Saudi Arabia, but not call on them to improve woman's rights? We should trade with Japan and South Korea, but not pledge to help defend them should the North Koreans decide that they want to attack them?
Trade and foreign policy go hand in hand. Do we overstep our boundries? Absolutely. Becoming isolationist with the exception of trade is a riduculous idea, though.
So we should trade with Egypt and not call on them to release the oppostion from prison? We should trade with Sudan and not call on them to stop funding the Janjaweed? We should trade with China, but not expect them to respect international property rights? We should trade with Saudi Arabia, but not call on them to improve woman's rights? We should trade with Japan and South Korea, but not pledge to help defend them should the North Koreans decide that they want to attack them?
Trade and foreign policy go hand in hand. Do we overstep our boundries? Absolutely. Becoming isolationist with the exception of trade is a riduculous idea, though.
Hegemony is coming to an end. We can't afford to be the world's savior. Should we continue to buy Canadian oil when they call for us to close Guantanamo?
psst.... We buy more oil from Canada than Saudi Arabia.
Hegemony is coming to an end. We can't afford to be the world's savior. Should we continue to buy Canadian oil when they call for us to close Guantanamo?
psst.... We buy more oil from Canada than Saudi Arabia.
Which makes sense - it is a hell of a lot cheaper to pipe it in from Canada than it is to ship it from Saudia Arabia. I, personally, think we should just invade Canada and Venezuela - we'd have more oil than we would know what to do with.
If we didn't have strong relations with countries that we disagreed with on occasion, we wouldn't have any relations.
The flow of power ebbs and flows - that doesn't mean we aren't going to continue to be strong for many years to come. China will gain strength, the EU will gain strength - our power may slip for a bit, but in the end we will stay one of the few super powers - if no the only super power in the world.
Then please tell why the bad guys are still alive and producing tapes and blowing up transportation in Europe? Our own leaders tell us that we will be hit again. Can we still count on Pakistan in the war on terror or will we need to be bombing then soon to get at Osama and his home base there. Iran is more or less influential in Iraq? Iran and Syria are more or less influential in Lebanon? Hamas is more or less influential in Gaza and the West Bank? The new coalition of the willing has how many partners fighting with us? Are relationships with the Oil Producing nations has enabled Bush to jaw bone the price of oil DOWN to how much a barrel? Give us more keep us in the status quo it rocks.
I don't care why. What I do care about is whether or not my leader is willing to make tough decisions. If Obama can't make touch decisions, if there's absolutely no indication that he has what it takes to push the button, then he's not worthy of the position.
Government is for one thing: Protection. That's why governments were formed, that's why they continue. If we didn't need protection, then we'd be one big happy global family. However, because there are bad guys out there, we still have government. So why in the world would we want a guy who doesn't demonstrate in any way an ability to fulfill that obligation?
I'm sorry. I trust that Hillary could push the button. I might not have before, but her tenacity means something today. I trust that McCain could push the button. I trust that Obama would wait for more information.
When time is of the essense, and it always is, you need someone who'll move forward when there's not enough info to move forward with. You need someone who's fearless. That's not Barack Obama.
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