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Old 05-19-2008, 10:18 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Quite interesting....
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The fact that Senator Obama - the son of a Muslim father - insists he was never a Muslim before becoming Christian is irrelevant to bin Laden. In bin Laden's eyes, Obama is a murtad fitri, the worst type of apostate, because he was blessed by Allah to be born into the true faith of Islam.

There are two types of apostates according to sharia (Islamic law) and the Hadith (sayings of the prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him).
The first type is murtad milli, one who converted to Islam and later renounced the faith. The second, and most egregious, type is murtad fitri. It refers to a person born of a Muslim father who renounces his birthright.
islandpacket.com | SHIREEN K. BURKI: Barack Obama - Muslim apostate? (broken link)
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Old 05-19-2008, 10:32 PM
 
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Quite interesting....


islandpacket.com | SHIREEN K. BURKI: Barack Obama - Muslim apostate? (broken link)

Thanks for posting this. I've heard something of this before, but that quote sums it up clearly.

I think this is a HUGE issue and I don't think he wants to address it publicly. According to orthodox Muslims he must be killed because of this, right? Kind of like the Salmon Rushdie thing but more serious, I would think. I wonder if there already has been a fatwa (sp?) ordered for his death. The fact that he was (according to the orthodox Muslims) "born" a Muslim he has turned his back on the Prophet....for a man like this to be President of the great Satan....

Does anybody know anymore about this? I'd be plenty worried if I were he. Oh, I'm sure some conspiracy theorists out there think he might not have ANYTHING to worry about if he is a Manchurian type candidate.
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Old 05-19-2008, 10:42 PM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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Something must have been upsetting Obama when he was in NC. I have never seen a candidate act so jumpy. Another poster mentioned how out of sorts Michelle was when she was in Charlotte. I imagine a lot goes on that we don't know about. While I don't think he has the wisdom or experience to be president, I hope nothing bad happens to him.
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Old 05-20-2008, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Fly-over country.
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Guys, he's far to liberal on social issues to be a muslim anything.
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Old 05-20-2008, 09:31 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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You miss the point of the article, by birth he was a Muslim,he had no choice in the matter.

By denying his faith(according to Islam) he is an apostate and should be killed.

Quite a bummer for him I guess...
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Old 05-20-2008, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Not sure what I find my pathetic:

That people are still trying to make Obama a Muslim boogeyman, or that so many of you made a mad dash to your online dictionaries to look up the word "apostate".
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Old 05-20-2008, 10:36 AM
 
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Very good written article and I know how many death threats Hirshi Ali got. Obama lived for many years in a muslims country and want us to believe that he isn't a muslim, just like he wants us to believe that he didn't listen while sitting in church for over 20 years and hearing this hate preaching. Just like he is now wearing a pin with the US flag, after people were making remarks...and on and on.........
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Old 05-20-2008, 10:37 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Not sure what I find my pathetic:

That people are still trying to make Obama a Muslim boogeyman, or that so many of you made a mad dash to your online dictionaries to look up the word "apostate".
Sigh....

ISLAM considers him a Muslim.

Well actually a Muslim apostate....but he was Muslim by their rulebook.
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Old 05-20-2008, 10:41 AM
 
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It'll be interesting to watch Muslim fundamentalist opinion about his apostasy, and what should be done about it, rise and fall throughout his presidency, if he's elected.
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Old 05-20-2008, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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OK, let's try it this way:

Barack Obama is a Muslim, therefore _______________________________.
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