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No, they wouldn't. Why? They would be deathly afraid of a Sharpton march on the DNC (which he has threatened to do) and the outcries from Obama's supporters. But they are not showing the same sensitivity toward those who believe Hillary is the better candidate who would have a much better chance of beating McCain. Why is that? Could it be that they dismiss us as "uneducated hicks who are afraid of black people," as Obama himself and his supporters have done?
As for #2, when Hillary wins, it's dismissed by using the demographics. Things like, "Oh, well, it's just the uneducated white people voting for her" or "Oh, well, that state has a high Hispanic population and the Hispanics don't like black people." When HE wins, it's hailed as this big triumph that "even white people are voting for him!" No matter how they spin it, we lose.
Oh I can't quite believe that. A sharpton march on the DNC would not happen if Obama lost the nomination fair & square. If there was some shady dealings going on he would probably be out there. I know you would want to believe differently but I think it would happen under those circumstances only.
Hillary did have big wins in WV and KY. I think you start to hear people talk about uneducated voters when polls come out about race being a factor when voting. The media, not the DNC has a lot(probably too much) to do with that line of thinking. It's reiterated on John King's magic map every day!
To reiterate, before you go down that road I don't believe that voting based on race & gender only is the thing to do.
Why are you twisting my words? I haven't said that you are stupid or whatsoever, I just feel like all your talking points make no sense. Some might do!
If you called me "stupid" outright, I could report the post. But saying that my posts "never make sense" means effectively the same thing but is a hair on this side of the line before becoming a personal attack. I'm not blind to the tactics used here. However, it is STILL ad hominem.
If you called me "stupid" outright, I could report the post. But saying that my posts "never make sense" means effectively the same thing but is a hair on this side of the line before becoming a personal attack. I'm not blind to the tactics used here. However, it is STILL ad hominem.
Whatever! Criticism is part of life, one gotta adapt to it.
Oh I can't quite believe that. A sharpton march on the DNC would not happen if Obama lost the nomination fair & square. If there was some shady dealings going on he would probably be out there. I know you would want to believe differently but I think it would happen under those circumstances only.
Hillary did have big wins in WV and KY. I think you start to hear people talk about uneducated voters when polls come out about race being a factor when voting. The media, not the DNC has a lot(probably too much) to do with that line of thinking. It's reiterated on John King's magic map every day!
To reiterate, before you go down that road I don't believe that voting based on race & gender only is the thing to do.
Hillary has won many more states besides WV and KY but her wins are ALWAYS spun the same way.
Do you think any of the way that her wins have been spun have anything to do with the comment she made about having the support of hard working white Americans?
Do you think any of the way that her wins have been spun have anything to do with the comment she made about having the support of hard working white Americans?
How could it have been? Those wins came long before that comment was highlighted and spun.
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If the shoe was on the other foot wouldn't the party expect for Obama to fall in line as well? From what I see all of the previous candidates have, because they see it as important that the party is unified.
#2: How can you say the DNC is not valuing the views of the people when the voting numbers tell a different tale?
do you think for a minute that obama and his supporters would fall in line if hillary somehow got the nomination? she still is the best chance for the democratic party in the general election. the problem the democrats have always had is that they want to lean too far to the left and that alienates many moderates and just about all conservatives. now obama has alienated the "working class" democrats, which is evidenced by the fact that he has lost 7 out of the last 9 in the democratic primaries. that is mind-boggling and certainly does not bode well for the general election!
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she still is the best chance for the democratic party in the general election. the problem the democrats have always had is that they want to lean too far to the left and that alienates many moderates and just about all conservatives. now obama has alienated the "working class" democrats, which is evidenced by the fact that he has lost 7 out of the last 9 in the democratic primaries. that is mind-boggling and certainly does not bode well for the general election!
