Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
It's time to get rid of the delegate - super delegate system and let the Popular Vote decide our elections....
Since it's too late for that this election... maybe Hillary can still run as an Independent!
Yes she is rapidly becoming a fine independent out there alone, still on the ship independent of the rest of the fleet. Stay the course mate I see a big iceberg ahead.
IMO - Clinton will be in the until the Convention. The lawsuits are being filed regarding Florida delegates.
IMO, this convention will end up being brokered -
IMO, the Democratic Party is going to be so fractured, that they are about assuring McCain a win in November.
IMO, you are wrong all three times. Two lawsuits, one brought by Fla Sen. Bill Nelson, against the DNC regarding the seating of delegates have already been dismissed. I would expect any further lawsuits to meet much the same fate.
The last brokered Democratic convention was in 1952.
I wouldn't count on old man McCain winning anything. Democrats have come out in record numbers so far this year. Once the convention is held, they will coalesce behind the nominee.
Ca. Rep. Jim Costa has endorsed Obama and fellow Ca. Rep. Dennis Cardoza has switched from Clinton to Obama saying:
Never to late to see the light Rep. Cardoza. According to DCW this now gives Obama 308.5 SDs to Clintons 278.5, most importantly he now has 1966 delegates only 59 away from making his nomination official.
Is Costa the PLEDGED delegate that switched sides?
I consider this to be crazy since she won his vote via people voting.
It Pledged delegates can vote for whoever they want, why should any of Obama's stick with Obama? Winning them in the election means nothing, according to Clinton's delegate who flipped.
Is Costa the PLEDGED delegate that switched sides?
I consider this to be crazy since she won his vote via people voting.
It Pledged delegates can vote for whoever they want, why should any of Obama's stick with Obama? Winning them in the election means nothing, according to Clinton's delegate who flipped.
That's our political system at work. When you see you aren't going to win, switch sides... so maybe you can get what you want when you come to them.
Just another example of why we need to do away with the Super Delegates. They aren't even representing the people. Apparently, once you get in, it's all about you!
What I really want to know is how Mr. Obama is going to not represent the Unions and lobbyist that he's been so outspoken against if he get's elected.
Why don't people see that he's just another politician. And, one who doesn't have the experience to lead a country. It's like anyone who goes to school and thinks they know how to do things - it's different in the real world.
We need someone with experience in the White House.
And, we need to reform our election process!
Last edited by World Citizen; 05-25-2008 at 09:59 AM..
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.