Clinton cites Kennedy assasination as to why she is staying in (conspiracy, American)
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Now the mud slinging from the anti Clinton folks has started. Is this stuff that would have been used if she got the nomination? Is it being used to drive a wedge between her campaign and the Obama campaign? Is it coming from the Obama campaign?
The thoughts had already been going through my mind about the increased risk to Obama's life if Hillary was the VP.
Why did she say it? She is an intelligent calculated person.
Scary skeletons in Clinton's closet. The Clintons have powerful connections. No charges are being made:
James McDougal - Clinton 's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.
2 -Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown . The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
3- Vince Foster - Former White House counselor and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock 's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller committed suicide.
5- C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992
6-Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".
7-Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
8-Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock . Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock . Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton . He allegedly threatened to
9-James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas
10-James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
11-Kathy Ferguson- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
12-Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiance of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiance, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiance.
13-Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton 's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14-Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
15- Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
16-Paula Grober - Clinton 's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992 . She died in a one car accident.
17-Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation
18- Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
19-Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993 . He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.
20-Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29,
21-Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
22-Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton 's advisory council personally treated Clinton 's mother, stepfather and brother.
23-Barry Seal -Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas , death was no accident.
24-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
25-Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.
26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.
27-Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
I thought I was going overboard in my last post, but after reading this, I realize that I am not. I wonder how they get away with it? I even wonder what plans they have in mind before June? This is rather scary.
Last edited by Mattie Jo; 05-24-2008 at 04:51 AM..
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Originally Posted by Rhiannon29
I am an Obama supporter, BUT I don't think she meant to say that she was hanging around until someone bumped off Obama. I just refuse to believe that she would purposely say something so disgusting; it clearly does not help her. Think about it: there is NO advantage, not in anyone's wildest imaginations, for her from making such insinuations.
What I think is that she used an extremely poor choice of words, which amounts to a huge blunder on her part. There were plenty of examples she could have used to make her point. The one with her husband isn't even accurate; by June of 1992, Bill had pretty much wrapped up the nomination. CA held their primary late, I believe.
Given her experience in the public eye, this is a BIG sign that she is tired, overworked, and stressed and really needs to think seriously about what she has to gain by staying in a race that she is losing, if her head isn't on straight and causing her to say odd things.
At this point I will give her the benefit of the doubt and hope she does not say anything so incredibly STUPID again.
She should never have apologized!!! I understand what she was trying to say and look who is making a stink out of this? Some skinny yuppie wannbee president who sat in a church listening to "His Pastor" spew hate filled messages about America for 20 years? GO HILLARY!!!!! KICK SOME BUTT!!!!
I disagree with your statement. She has brought this on all by herself. I agree she would not have benefited from saying such a thing. Sometimes people say what they are thinking before they think it through. Watching the tape of this you can see she knew she screwed up right after she said it. Why blame Obama. He didn't say anything accept it was unfortunate and had no place in this election. His statement is a true one.
If it was indeed a misspeak then someone in her staff should have caught it the 1st time she said it and not the third time. Its the way she said it I think. Some people are taking it as a message to her supporters to hold on anything is possible. I just think it was a really low and disgusting way of trying to say in the race. She knew that Obama had to receive Secret Service because of death threats. I just don't know why she would bring it up in the first place. Sorry for those that disagree but like I said in a previous post if she were to say that up here in Canada her career would be finished. I'm sure making a statement like this one will cause some of the Super Del's cause for concern.
Clinton faces uproar with Kennedy assassination comment - Yahoo! News (broken link)
McCain couldn't be happier. He released his medical records and his wife released her tax returns late Friday of Memorial Day weekend. As the article notes a traditional news blackspot. However much to his glee and that of the status quo advocates Hillary did another one of her moves for change by uttering the now infamous Kennedy gaffe. This has far overshadowed McCain. The junior reporters still having to stay on the job are probably overwhelmed with all they have to cover and are prioritizing? In addition is Hillary comparing her election process with that in Zimbabwe, what gives with that? Does that mean Howard Dean is one evil dictator who she will not negotiate with and will fight to the last remaining gaffe in her body? I don't know but the more you read what she is saying, oh well at least her minister is cool who ever she/he is.
It appears this is a big gaffe for Hillary and in some cases bigger than Obama's bitter comments. Its over, Hillary just needs to get out of the picture. Its the fact that she threw the assasination comment out there as a "reminder" to people about what could happen. Hillary lied when she said she said that because Ted Kenedy was on her mind...in fact she made the same comment back in March to Time Magazine before all this happened to Ted Kennedy. I guess Ted Kennedy was on her mind back then as well. Again if she was just making reference to how long the primaries lasted, she could of just said RFK campaigned in June. She didnt have to say anything about his assasination. Thank God Hillary wont be our nominee. That comment just fatally wounded her in this campaign.
As an outsider I have to tell you that this Democrat Primary Season is worst then any General Election I can remember. I love US Politics there is so much drama. Canadian Politics are so boring. I just think that the fighting between your two Democrats are really going to hurt them in the end. I feel as a outsider looking in on this that Hillary seems to be the worst one of the bunch. She isn't thinking of her parties future by saying the comments that she is saying. She is only looking out for the Clintons but I'm afraid her latest comments may have fatally wounded their legacy. A lot of the world is watching this historic primary run and I hate to think what they may be thinking of all of this.
As an outsider I have to tell you that this Democrat Primary Season is worst then any General Election I can remember. I love US Politics there is so much drama. Canadian Politics are so boring. I just think that the fighting between your two Democrats are really going to hurt them in the end. I feel as a outsider looking in on this that Hillary seems to be the worst one of the bunch. She isn't thinking of her parties future by saying the comments that she is saying. She is only looking out for the Clintons but I'm afraid her latest comments may have fatally wounded their legacy. A lot of the world is watching this historic primary run and I hate to think what they may be thinking of all of this.
Well all the other countries want to see Obama as president so thats really telling what they are thinking.
Hmmm and the world looks like?
Hmmm and the world already thinks of us?
We are/were the leaders of the free world?
The economies of the world are tied to or decoupling from the American economy?
Go status quo we don't need them anyway. We can produce our own oil and return Ford to profitability by buying more Trucks and SUV's.
Who cares what Hillary said anyway and thats what we are talking about in here.
At this point I will give her the benefit of the doubt and hope she does not say anything so incredibly STUPID again.
The problem is Kevin, she has said it before in March. It is something she keeps in her mind. This was an abominable thing to say in a time when every American is already on edge for terrorist threats, let alone assassination. Anything to win is just not a laudable method.
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