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Old 07-13-2022, 06:53 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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I can't see a Democrat in a swing State to have such a high margin of victory considering what's going on in our country. So yeah, this poll is BS.
Argument from Incredulity is a logical fallacy.
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Old 07-13-2022, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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I think this is true. Trump v Clinton is the most obvious example, but did you see how Susan Collins pulled out the dub against Sara Gideon? Collins was down big in polls. Take any poll with n=2000, margin of error +/- 3 percentage points, then automatically subtract 2 points from the dem, add 2 to the republican. If pollsters are calling it a toss-up, put your money on the republican.

That said, isn't Mastriano one of those clowns who supported throwing out all the votes in Philadelphia? Does PA really want an Eastman style dictator running the show?
Mastriano as governor would have the authority to appoint a Secretary of State that he chooses, and has vowed to require all Pennsylvania voters re-register to eliminate "fraud" and to de-certify the voting machines "with the stroke of a pen" that determined Biden carried the state in 2020. There is a large share of Pennsylvania voters who would be more than pleased to have him as governor, and to disenfranchise the electorate in Philadelphia and other locations with large numbers of minorities, young people, academics and liberals.

It's going to be a fight in the trenches this year to keep him out of the governorship, and likely an uphill battle with Biden's atrocious approval numbers tainting the prospects of other Democrats nationwide.
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Old 07-13-2022, 07:40 AM
 
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Mastriano as governor would have the authority to appoint a Secretary of State that he chooses, and has vowed to require all Pennsylvania voters re-register to eliminate "fraud" and to de-certify the voting machines "with the stroke of a pen" that determined Biden carried the state in 2020. There is a large share of Pennsylvania voters who would be more than pleased to have him as governor, and to disenfranchise the electorate in Philadelphia and other locations with large numbers of minorities, young people, academics and liberals.

It's going to be a fight in the trenches this year to keep him out of the governorship, and likely an uphill battle with Biden's atrocious approval numbers tainting the prospects of other Democrats nationwide.
He could never accomplish that and that statement might have been to show how serious he is about voter fraud. And what he wants and gets approved by the legislature are 2 different things for any governor. And there's a Democrat governor in there now which mean it probably took RINOs to get and keep him in there. Those same RINOs will not leave or change when the next governor comes in.

Philadelphia and many other cities are a problem onto their own. Many states the big cities dominate the politics and coverage. That's what any governor should remember they're governor of an entire state and not a large batch of voters from one geographic area.
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Old 07-13-2022, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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He could never accomplish that and that statement might have been to show how serious he is about voter fraud. And what he wants and gets approved by the legislature are 2 different things for any governor. And there's a Democrat governor in there now which mean it probably took RINOs to get and keep him in there. Those same RINOs will not leave or change when the next governor comes in.

Philadelphia and many other cities are a problem onto their own. Many states the big cities dominate the politics and coverage. That's what any governor should remember they're governor of an entire state and not a large batch of voters from one geographic area.
There isn't any justification to drastically change the way voting is done just because rural America believes in election conspiracy delivered to them by Trump, and his supporters. Mastriano is running on a platform that continues to promote election conspiracy. He will get the minority vote and not be elected Republicans will not win seats using election conspiracy.
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Old 07-13-2022, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Southern Nevada
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I still believe people vote with their wallets. Voters are going hold Biden & the Democrats responsible for high gas prices, soaring inflation, high food prices, and out-of-control crime.

Even though gas prices have dropped a little they shouldn't have gotten that high to begin with. That small price drop won't be enough to save them.

As for Roe, not enough people really care about that enough to make a difference. The average 40-50-60 year old cares more about what they spend and living in a safe environment.
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Old 07-13-2022, 11:33 AM
 
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I think the impact of Roe is going to be among suburban women. And in Pa, that is a big cohort. In other states it will have no impact.


An important thing I did not see posted was what the numbers are. Are the Dems at 48-50? If so that is very strong. If they are at 43% and its simply the case of Rs not actually liking their candidate, the polls tell us nothing as their are too many undecideds who might hold their nose and vote R- or simply have not warmed (might not warm) to the D.
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Old 07-13-2022, 12:27 PM
 
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Mastriano as governor would have the authority to appoint a Secretary of State that he chooses, and has vowed to require all Pennsylvania voters re-register to eliminate "fraud" and to de-certify the voting machines "with the stroke of a pen" that determined Biden carried the state in 2020. There is a large share of Pennsylvania voters who would be more than pleased to have him as governor, and to disenfranchise the electorate in Philadelphia and other locations with large numbers of minorities, young people, academics and liberals.

It's going to be a fight in the trenches this year to keep him out of the governorship, and likely an uphill battle with Biden's atrocious approval numbers tainting the prospects of other Democrats nationwide.
I would gladly re-register to clean up PA's atrocious voter rolls.

What are you so afraid of?
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Old 07-13-2022, 12:29 PM
 
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There isn't any justification to drastically change the way voting is done just because rural America believes in election conspiracy delivered to them by Trump, and his supporters. Mastriano is running on a platform that continues to promote election conspiracy. He will get the minority vote and not be elected Republicans will not win seats using election conspiracy.
Don't you think voter rolls should be cleaned up periodically though?
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Old 07-28-2022, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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New Fox News poll has Fetterman up by 11 and Shapiro is up by 10:
https://www.foxnews.com/official-pol...ia-senate-race
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Old 07-28-2022, 06:56 PM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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Candidates like Fetterman are what the Democrats need to stop the bleeding in the Midwest and with most Hispanic voters. He is thoroughly blue collar yet left enough on social issues (but not too far left). Oz is a weak candidate not even from PA but I think Fetterman would beat most Republicans. Also Roe v Wade gave D's a few critical points in senate races.
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