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Old 07-09-2022, 06:12 PM
 
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Article: "Those numbers are very tight and the Harris poll found that a significant 23 percent of respondents were undecided between DeSantis and Harris."

So basically ... inconclusive.

 
Old 07-09-2022, 06:19 PM
 
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This poll should set the hair on fire of a lot of posters in this sub forum. LOL

https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harr...n-poll-1722913
That is absurd. Harris is the least qualified VP in history, and has shown herself to be even worse than many thought she would be. DeSantis has turned out to be a good governor of his state, and sounds reasoned, rational, intelligent, and the adult in the room.

If Harris were to beat DeSantis (or anyone even in her own party), you would know for certain the elections were rigged, and it would be time to clean house.
 
Old 07-09-2022, 06:23 PM
 
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That is absurd. Harris is the least qualified VP in history, and has shown herself to be even worse than many thought she would be. DeSantis has turned out to be a good governor of his state, and sounds reasoned, rational, intelligent, and the adult in the room.

If Harris were to beat DeSantis (or anyone even in her own party), you would know for certain the elections were rigged, and it would be time to clean house.
DeSantis only appeals to the populists just like trump. He doesn’t excite the base like trump either. Trump couldn’t crack 47% of the overall vote in 2016 or 2020.

DeSantis doesn’t have broad appeal. He is Trump lite and would get 42-45% of the overall vote. He would need an electoral college surprise to win.

The only GOP candidate I could see winning and getting close to 50% of the overall vote would be Adam Kinzinger.
 
Old 07-09-2022, 06:25 PM
 
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The polls are not all that straight forward as they appear to "tinker" with the results they get.

https://caps.gov.harvard.edu/caps-harris-poll

"Results are weighted for age within gender, region, race/ethnicity, marital status, household size, income, employment, and education where necessary to align them with their actual proportions in the population. Propensity score weighting is also used to adjust for respondents’ propensity to be online."

So, it does not look all that impressive. It kind of looks like other polls, the poll says what the pollsters want it to say. I have been following polls for awhile, long while and looking to see what criteria they were using, etc. All polls are sadly worthless.
But hey, if it helps you sleep better thinking Ho' Harris will be POTUS, maybe it will be better than dwelling on the nightmare that is President Biden.
 
Old 07-09-2022, 06:26 PM
 
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Article: "Those numbers are very tight and the Harris poll found that a significant 23 percent of respondents were undecided between DeSantis and Harris."

So basically ... inconclusive.
Between that large undecided percentage and the small sample size (1,308), I'm not putting much value on this poll. If you back out the 23% undecided, the poll was essentially 1,007 people.
 
Old 07-09-2022, 06:27 PM
 
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The polls are not all that straight forward as they appear to "tinker" with the results they get.

https://caps.gov.harvard.edu/caps-harris-poll

"Results are weighted for age within gender, region, race/ethnicity, marital status, household size, income, employment, and education where necessary to align them with their actual proportions in the population. Propensity score weighting is also used to adjust for respondents’ propensity to be online."

So, it does not look all that impressive. It kind of looks like other polls, the poll says what the pollsters want it to say. I have been following polls for awhile, long while and looking to see what criteria they were using, etc. All polls are sadly worthless.
But hey, if it helps you sleep better thinking Ho' Harris will be POTUS, maybe it will be better than dwelling on the nightmare that is President Biden.
Then Democrats are going to end up with 53 or more senate seats and keep the house in November. That is going by your logic.

DeSantis would be a flop and lose like trump did in 2020.
 
Old 07-09-2022, 06:29 PM
 
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DeSantis only appeals to the populists just like trump. He doesn’t excite the base like trump either. Trump couldn’t crack 47% of the overall vote in 2016 or 2020.

DeSantis doesn’t have broad appeal. He is Trump lite and would get 42-45% of the overall vote. He would need an electoral college surprise to win.

The only GOP candidate I could see winning and getting close to 50% of the overall vote would be Adam Kinzinger.
If Trump doesn't want to run or is talked out of it, Trump will hand off his supporters to DeSantis who will beat Ho' Harris' pants off (not the first time she'll be "pants off Harris" although this time, it won't be working in her favor to elevate her career.
 
Old 07-09-2022, 06:30 PM
 
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DeSantis only appeals to the populists just like trump. He doesn’t excite the base like trump either. Trump couldn’t crack 47% of the overall vote in 2016 or 2020.

DeSantis doesn’t have broad appeal. He is Trump lite and would get 42-45% of the overall vote. He would need an electoral college surprise to win.

The only GOP candidate I could see winning and getting close to 50% of the overall vote would be Adam Kinzinger.
But this is a comparison and I don't think Harris has very broad appeal either. So for many if 2024 came down to DeSantis v Harris they will be choosing between two candidates they don't like. And Harris will have membership in the Biden administration to overcome.
 
Old 07-09-2022, 06:38 PM
 
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Well, so much for the validity of polls.
 
Old 07-09-2022, 06:43 PM
 
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Kamala would trounce that chump
Kamala couldn’t win a pta election. Even worse than a Hillary, if that is possible.
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