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This could have a wide-reaching impact on the presidential race, since polls have already shown that Barr might draw up to 4% of the national vote - does he threaten to become McCain's Nader?
Libertarian Convention blog (http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/shared-blogs/ajc/politicalinsider/entries/2008/05/25/index.html - broken link)
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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This could have a wide-reaching impact on the presidential race, since polls have already shown that Barr might draw up to 4% of the national vote - does he threaten to become McCain's Nader?
Libertarian Convention blog (http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/shared-blogs/ajc/politicalinsider/entries/2008/05/25/index.html - broken link)
They were saying on TV this morning that he might draw up to 8% of the vote in Georgia which could tip the state if Obama's voters turn out as high as they did in the primary. I think all good Democrats need to send this man a contribution! Actually Barr used to be my Congressman. I know him and although I do not agree with him on a lot of issues except guns, he helped me with my father's burial arrangements and he is an honourable man. I am an Obama supporter but if he were running for something else, I would probably vote for him as I did when he ran here.
I am torn between supporting Obama and Barr. I know talk about opposite ends of the political spectrum!!! But I like things about both candidates. Heck the way I'm thinking now I may vote for the Constitution Party candidate. Anyways I'll be watching both candidates over the next several months.
I am torn between supporting Obama and Barr. I know talk about opposite ends of the political spectrum!!! But I like things about both candidates. Heck the way I'm thinking now I may vote for the Constitution Party candidate. Anyways I'll be watching both candidates over the next several months.
If Barr is a true libertarian, meaning he's renounced many of the things he did in Congress, then they're not on the opposite ends of the spectrum. That's the big myth perpetuated by the left in this country, that libertarianism is a right-wing political ideology. Libertarianism is above and beyond the traditional spectrum.
I'm torn as well between Barr and Obama. I'm for completely reducing the size and intrusiveness of our federal government. Getting out of Iraq and other such foreign entanglements is the first step toward doing this. The problem is that Obama favors big government on virtually every other level.
If there were only a guarantee that Obama could get us out of Iraq, reestablish good relations around the world, and then had every other one of his big-government proposals gridlocked. Then he could be voted out of office in 2012 and a true libertarian could take his place, and thus begin the process of dismantling the federal government to its intended size.
I am not happy that all of the three major candidates are big government taxers and wasters.
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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If Barr is a true libertarian, meaning he's renounced many of the things he did in Congress, then they're not on the opposite ends of the spectrum. That's the big myth perpetuated by the left in this country, that libertarianism is a right-wing political ideology. Libertarianism is above and beyond the traditional spectrum.
I'm torn as well between Barr and Obama. I'm for completely reducing the size and intrusiveness of our federal government. Getting out of Iraq and other such foreign entanglements is the first step toward doing this. The problem is that Obama favors big government on virtually every other level.
If there were only a guarantee that Obama could get us out of Iraq, reestablish good relations around the world, and then had every other one of his big-government proposals gridlocked. Then he could be voted out of office in 2012 and a true libertarian could take his place, and thus begin the process of dismantling the federal government to its intended size.
I am not happy that all of the three major candidates are big government taxers and wasters.
Why do you think Obama favours "big government" on every level? He has not said that and his proposals are rather modest and targeted. His heathcare proposal is very modest in which the government would essentially subsidize insurance for those that cannot get it elsewhere through employers or Medicare or Medicaid. I was kind of disappointed in Obama's health program because I favour a full scale National Health program like Canada and the UK enjoy. But at least he is doing SOMETHING unlike the Republicans about the health crisis in the USA. Other than that and education, I have not heard Obama say he wants to spend more money or raise taxes for people that make less than $100,000 ($200K for couples) which is most of us that work.
Why do you think Obama favours "big government" on every level? He has not said that and his proposals are rather modest and targeted. His heathcare proposal is very modest in which the government would essentially subsidize insurance for those that cannot get it elsewhere through employers or Medicare or Medicaid. I was kind of disappointed in Obama's health program because I favour a full scale National Health program like Canada and the UK enjoy. But at least he is doing SOMETHING unlike the Republicans about the health crisis in the USA. Other than that and education, I have not heard Obama say he wants to spend more money or raise taxes for people that make less than $100,000 ($200K for couples) which is most of us that work.
The idea that it's the federal government's job to "do something" about every problem facing this country is, in itself, a big government stance.
After living in the UK, there is no way I would ever want universal health care here.
People forget that profit drives innovation. Having the gov in charge of health care would be a nightmare, it is because of the gov now that prices are so high with thier over regulation of the medical system.
There is too much gov now, it needs to be reduced.
Barring (like the pun?) any unforeseen event at the RNC, Barr will be who I vote for. I won't vote for a presidential candidate with no experience as an elected federal government official... and the dems and reps have nothing to offer, so LP it will be.
Now I have someone to vote for that will be on the ballot. Since writing in Ron Paul's name would not have been counted...and voting for McCain, Obama/Hillary was NOT an option!
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