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Old 03-17-2023, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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She doesn't need majority but just enough to siphon Gallego's Left support.

Back in 2020, AZ primary Biden, a moderate Establishment candidate outperformed Sanders, the progressive. Would AZ registered Dems be so supportive of a progressive this time around, resulting in Sinema gets little left from the Democrats. I suppose anything can happen but it doesn't seem realistic.

Also, the fallout is those anti-Trump suburban Republicans would be advancing in Lake in that scenario. Anyways, MAGA supporters might want Lake to be Trump's running mate and Trump might listen to his support. She was an attraction in CPAC by the supporters there.

The Democrats need to handle Sinema regardless of the R candidate in AZ. Maybe Biden could offer her a position in his Cabinet, so that she doesn't run.
I think Sinema could get reelected over Lake even in a 3-way race. 34% of Arizona voters are registered as independent.
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Old 03-17-2023, 05:43 PM
 
Location: TUS/PDX
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Let's see how she handles her part in the SVB debacle. She's up to her tooshie being beholden to the bank lobby and has her fingerprints all over legislation that eased regulation of the industry. It's going to be very difficult for her to brush the relationship aside, particularly if more banks start tanking. Maybe she's working to drum up a revival of the Keating Five.
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Old 03-21-2023, 01:22 PM
 
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If Lake ends up running for Senate, I expect the Big Orange Man will hold rallies in Arizona in the fall of 2024, bellowing that both he and Lake actually won their elections in the state but were cheated by "Democrat fraud". This will remind more middle of the road voters in Arizona what is at stake, and that supporting Sinema just divides the anti-#MAGA vote. Such voters have demonstrated recently they don't want election deniers and conspiracy peddlers in office.
A recent Rasmussen poll reports most Arizona voters believe election irregularities affected the 2022 elections -

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...fected_outcome
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Old 03-21-2023, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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A recent Rasmussen poll reports most Arizona voters believe election irregularities affected the 2022 elections -

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...fected_outcome
Hmm a jointly conducted poll between Rasmussen and College Republicans United, any reason you left that part out??
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Old 03-21-2023, 04:28 PM
 
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Hmm a jointly conducted poll between Rasmussen and College Republicans United, any reason you left that part out??
Specifically, which questions in the poll do you have an issue with? Link is below.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...ona_march_2023
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Old 03-22-2023, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Specifically, which questions in the poll do you have an issue with? Link is below.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...ona_march_2023
The wording is interesting, and of course anytime a partisan group is doing a poll, they will only release results that show what they want. The fact that the pollster comes up with a theory that the results of the poll show something different than the results of the vote raises serious questions about the election is about as absurd on its face.
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Old 03-22-2023, 02:39 PM
 
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The wording is interesting, and of course anytime a partisan group is doing a poll, they will only release results that show what they want. The fact that the pollster comes up with a theory that the results of the poll show something different than the results of the vote raises serious questions about the election is about as absurd on its face.
That is not answering my question. They released results from the questions that were given to the 1001 likely voters that were part of the poll. When Maricopa county takes over a week to complete counting votes that raises questions about what is going on within the election process there. Too many Arizona close races within a 1% or less margin when in favor of the Democrat candidates to not be concerned about it.
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Old 03-22-2023, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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That is not answering my question. They released results from the questions that were given to the 1001 likely voters that were part of the poll. When Maricopa county takes over a week to complete counting votes that raises questions about what is going on within the election process there. Too many Arizona close races within a 1% or less margin when in favor of the Democrat candidates to not be concerned about it.
If you literally look at the comments from the pollster it is obvious they went fishing for the results. On top of that, it has nothing to do with Maricopa considering it took just as long elsewhere in the state. Reason being for the verification process of those who dropped off ballots near the deadline as was explained at the time and has literally happened the last several election cycles. Were the races in AZ-01 and AZ-06 some conspiracy also?? Or is just a conspiracy when the Democratic candidate wins a close race?
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Old 03-22-2023, 05:49 PM
 
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If you literally look at the comments from the pollster it is obvious they went fishing for the results. On top of that, it has nothing to do with Maricopa considering it took just as long elsewhere in the state. Reason being for the verification process of those who dropped off ballots near the deadline as was explained at the time and has literally happened the last several election cycles. Were the races in AZ-01 and AZ-06 some conspiracy also?? Or is just a conspiracy when the Democratic candidate wins a close race?
You have an example of this?

No other state takes consistently as long as AZ does to tally their votes, it was a problem in 2020 and the same thing happened in 2022. They need to hire enough people to verify the results or try to automate the signature verification process. Maricopa is by far the biggest county in AZ, followed by Pima county. I live here in another rural county. Look at FL as an example of a state that can count votes quickly.

There were additional voting problems in Pinal County in 2022 where they had issues and had to recount their ballots and ran out of ballots at the polls on election day.

https://news.yahoo.com/election-tall...002020995.html
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Old 03-23-2023, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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You have an example of this?

No other state takes consistently as long as AZ does to tally their votes, it was a problem in 2020 and the same thing happened in 2022. They need to hire enough people to verify the results or try to automate the signature verification process. Maricopa is by far the biggest county in AZ, followed by Pima county. I live here in another rural county. Look at FL as an example of a state that can count votes quickly.

There were additional voting problems in Pinal County in 2022 where they had issues and had to recount their ballots and ran out of ballots at the polls on election day.

https://news.yahoo.com/election-tall...002020995.html
In the article you linked College Republicans United stated that the poll showing a different result in the Governor's race than the result was a reason to question the results. Yes Maricopa is the largest, but the process and the results were the same across the board even in the smaller rural counties. It takes some time to verify the ballots for the drop offs and mail ins. Not to mention Arizona finished before a bunch of stares, including Utah. Did some conspiracy go on in Utah because it took a bunch of time? Just because a race isn't close doesn't mean it doesn't take some time to count.
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