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Old 03-23-2023, 09:14 AM
 
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In the article you linked College Republicans United stated that the poll showing a different result in the Governor's race than the result was a reason to question the results.
Again, you have challenged the recent poll claiming Ramussen was fishing for the results they wanted with no examples for a poll question which show this. Just because you don't like the poll results doesn't mean it was faulty.
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Old 03-23-2023, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Again, you have challenged the recent poll claiming Ramussen was fishing for the results they wanted with no examples for a poll question which show this. Just because you don't like the poll results doesn't mean it was faulty.
With the likely voter sample, when the chairman of the organization states the election results must be fishy because the poll showed something different it is pretty obvious they were fishing

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“This survey of actual Arizona voters, with a 3% margin of error, indicates that 8% more of them voted for Lake than voted for Katie Hobbs,” said Richard Thomas, National Chairman of Republicans United.

“That's almost three times the poll margin of error. This raises serious questions about the certified ballot totals in light of the host of reported procedural irregularities.”

Regardless, point being is the poll was an internal poll (one done for & through a Republican organization), internal polls that get released (and this goes for internal polls done by either side) are going to show the most friendly result possible for their side.
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Old 03-24-2023, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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A recent Rasmussen poll reports most Arizona voters believe election irregularities affected the 2022 elections -

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...fected_outcome
1000 voters polled out of millions who actually voted. I don't call that a good poll the first question on the poll was "How do you think Biden is doing". The response they got was from MAGA's the rest hung up.
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Old 03-24-2023, 02:35 PM
 
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1000 voters polled out of millions who actually voted. I don't call that a good poll the first question on the poll was "How do you think Biden is doing". The response they got was from MAGA's the rest hung up.
The first question included is - How would you rate the job Joe Biden has been doing as President… do you strongly approve, somewhat approve, somewhat disapprove, or strongly disapprove of the job he’s been doing?

That doesn't match "How do you think Biden is doing". They are rating him on job performance.
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Old 03-27-2023, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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The first question included is - How would you rate the job Joe Biden has been doing as President… do you strongly approve, somewhat approve, somewhat disapprove, or strongly disapprove of the job he’s been doing?

That doesn't match "How do you think Biden is doing". They are rating him on job performance.
What is the difference? it's a question that will trigger Trump and Lake supporters to continue to listen while others will just hang up. Doesn't really matter anyway Hobbs is the Governor and can only be removed by impeachment that requires Democrat support that won't happen. Lake has no case she is using polls to prove she won it's a weak argument when polling was obviously wrong last 2 election cycles.
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Old 03-27-2023, 08:04 PM
 
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What is the difference? it's a question that will trigger Trump and Lake supporters to continue to listen while others will just hang up. Doesn't really matter anyway Hobbs is the Governor and can only be removed by impeachment that requires Democrat support that won't happen. Lake has no case she is using polls to prove she won it's a weak argument when polling was obviously wrong last 2 election cycles.
That is just your opinion, other would disagree with it like me. Hobbs is a bad governor who is doing nothing to work on securing the border. Who is the last governor from any state that was elected without debating their opponent?
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Old 03-27-2023, 09:21 PM
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Location: Middle Tennessee
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That is just your opinion, other would disagree with it like me. Hobbs is a bad governor who is doing nothing to work on securing the border. Who is the last governor from any state that was elected without debating their opponent?
Bill Lee here in Tennessee running for reelection last year would not debate his opponent Jason Martin
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Old 03-28-2023, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Central Mass
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Hobbs is a bad governor who is doing nothing to work on securing the border.
Good. It would be unconstitutional for her to do any work to secure the border with Mexico.

Kleindienst v. Mandel (1972), Boutilier v INS (1967), Glavan v. Press (1954)

"the formulation of these policies [pertaining to the entry of aliens and their right to remain here] is entrusted exclusively to Congress"
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Old 03-28-2023, 09:04 AM
 
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Good. It would be unconstitutional for her to do any work to secure the border with Mexico.

Kleindienst v. Mandel (1972), Boutilier v INS (1967), Glavan v. Press (1954)

"the formulation of these policies [pertaining to the entry of aliens and their right to remain here] is entrusted exclusively to Congress"
Tell that to Governor Abbott of Texas. If the President is ignoring border laws, states are forced to take action themselves. There are plenty of immigration laws placed by Congress already in place that just need to be enforced.

https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/gove...curity-efforts
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Old 03-28-2023, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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That is just your opinion, other would disagree with it like me. Hobbs is a bad governor who is doing nothing to work on securing the border. Who is the last governor from any state that was elected without debating their opponent?
Apparently, Hobbs was correct she didn't have to debate Lake to win who is the smart one? If Robson had won the primary, I suspect the outcome would have been different.

The border is the responsibility of the federal government not the state. The shipping container political stunt is now costing the state bunch of money to remove.

The migrant busing cost taxpayer $1400 to ride a bus when it cost $250 on Greyhound can't tell me someone isn't filling their pockets with taxpayer money.

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