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Old 09-28-2022, 08:43 PM
 
Location: az
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The polls for Republicans in 2020 were awful. Awfully wrong.

So awful that the normally sedate Pew Research Center unleashed a post-election scolding to the polling triumvirate of media/colleges/consultants who consistently undercounted GOP chances.

“It’s clear that national and many state estimates were not just off, but off in the same direction: They favored the Democratic candidate,” Pew said in a post-Nov. 3 analysis.

The error gap is important, Republicans say because bloated Democratic poll numbers can tamp down fundraising and influence some voters to give up — before even voting. It is what Democrats would call “voter suppression.”

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...the-pollsters/
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Old 09-28-2022, 08:45 PM
 
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Trump won by less than Biden did 107k votes or .09% in 3 states in 2016.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...state-margins/

Biden won by 313k votes in 6 swing states.
You picked 3 states for Trump and 6 states for Biden? LOL
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Old 09-28-2022, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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You picked 3 states for Trump and 6 states for Biden? LOL
Those were the state that Trump won and historically were blue states just like Biden winning AZ, and GA.
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Old 09-28-2022, 10:11 PM
 
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Those were the state that Trump won and historically were blue states just like Biden winning AZ, and GA.

Which is it? Trump barely lost or Biden barely won by less than 0.1% of all votes cast. Now you understand why the party in power is so obsessed about Trump. Democrats need more leaks and more investigations, 2 years is a long time.
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Old 09-28-2022, 10:19 PM
 
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Another good sign for democracy. The MAGAS are really helping the Dems along with Roe.
Bad sign sign for democracy if the leftists get control of both chambers. If one has control of one and the other of the other nothing extremes form either side can get done.

We need to avoid socialism/Marxists at all costs which is what will happen if dems control both chambers of congress!!
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Old 09-29-2022, 03:18 PM
 
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Not illegal. Trump is funneling the money into a Leadership PAC.

It isn't very helpful to the party though.

Leadership PACs are like slush funds, regulation on them is lax, so the principle beneficiary (the owner of the PAC) can spend the money in ways that benefit them personally. Apparently there are no legal requirements to distribute the money once raised.

Trump found out about this and now funnels money from every new type of appeal he sends out into the same PAC, then he often doesn't use the money for the purpose of the specific appeal. He sends out a lot of appeals for different reasons which feed the same fund. It is piling up in there, but Trump can also use the money to cover many of his own personal lifestyle expenses.

Nothing about this is illegal, that is how this type of PAC was set up by lawmakers. Apparently when they wrote the law, the lawmakers assumed that honorable people would use the money as it was intended.
So both parties does it? Biden, Pelosi, Schumer and the rest? So what's his problem?
I don't know how many politicians have such pacs. I am sure there are several in each party.

Trump isn't doing anything illegal, but it is remarkable that he raises money complaining of this or that (some people have said his team sends out multiple emails per day at times), then when he gets the money, he doesn't spend it! He doesn't spend it on lawyers, he gets the RNC to pay for that. He doesn't donate the money to the causes it is raised for, he keeps it. The man is like a cancerous tumor on the party ... so be it.

I don't care, I am glad he doesn't spend it.

But it is a reflection of his character, it is in perfect keeping with his character.

Send him more money. Go ahead.
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Old 09-29-2022, 03:24 PM
 
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Bad sign sign for democracy if the leftists get control of both chambers. If one has control of one and the other of the other nothing extremes form either side can get done.

We need to avoid socialism/Marxists at all costs which is what will happen if dems control both chambers of congress!!
You don't have a clue what a socialist is, or a Marxist is.
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Old 09-29-2022, 03:32 PM
 
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I don't know how many politicians have such pacs. I am sure there are several in each party.

Trump isn't doing anything illegal, but it is remarkable that he raises money complaining of this or that (some people have said his team sends out multiple emails per day at times), then when he gets the money, he doesn't spend it! He doesn't spend it on lawyers, he gets the RNC to pay for that. He doesn't donate the money to the causes it is raised for, he keeps it. The man is like a cancerous tumor on the party ... so be it.

I don't care, I am glad he doesn't spend it.

But it is a reflection of his character, it is in perfect keeping with his character.

Send him more money. Go ahead.

Hint: all political parties have pacs. Washington runs on pacs.

For a person that isn't a Republican and hates Trump, you sure talk about him a lot and care about the party so much.
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Old 09-30-2022, 07:16 AM
 
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Hint: all political parties have pacs. Washington runs on pacs.

For a person that isn't a Republican and hates Trump, you sure talk about him a lot and care about the party so much.

IIRC, he used to be a Republican.


I don't remember if it was Trump or something else that drove him away from the party.
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Old 09-30-2022, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Bad sign sign for democracy if the leftists get control of both chambers. If one has control of one and the other of the other nothing extremes form either side can get done.

We need to avoid socialism/Marxists at all costs which is what will happen if dems control both chambers of congress!!
Reminds me of this video I saw from a Yale professor explaining fascism.

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