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Old 10-24-2022, 09:23 AM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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In the current environment Rubio is not afraid of Demings in the least. He is just giving the majority of Florida voters the type of messaging that they want. The state isn't interested in electing anyone from the "Democrat" party, and this is based on both issues and "tribal" identity.

In red state America which includes Florida, the Republican message is simple - if you're a Democrat, we'll tie you to Biden, Harris, Schumer, Pelosi and the Squad - and by default you're against normal, law abiding Americans. For better or worse, that messaging is working.
Since there are no Democrats that have distanced themselves from the agenda of Biden and the national party, nobody should be surprised that it's working.

Democrats can't support their own President's agenda 100% and then disown it just for purposes of the election. Most people aren't stupid enough to buy that.
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Old 10-24-2022, 09:47 AM
 
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I used to think Rubio was one of the better Republicans. He went after Trump in 2016 (remember "Little Marco" and Tiny Hands Trump"?).

But then Trump won and Rubio started sucking up to him, just like every other spineless Republican, including Lindsay Graham and Chris Christie. Now Rubio has sunk so low it's sad.

He's running adds in Florida claiming that Democrats are "...trying to turn little boys into girls.." Is he really that desperate? Is he that afraid of Val Deming that he has to make up ridiculous crap instead of campaigning on the issues?
Same here. I thought he was too young in 2016, but that he had promise and integrity.

He's thrown all that away.

I almost feel sorry for him. The look on his face when Val asked him what happened to him..... He actually looked sick and couldn't even look at her.

He knows who he is now and he's ashamed of himself at some level. Who would want to vote for that.
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Old 10-24-2022, 09:49 AM
 
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I used to think Rubio was one of the better Republicans. He went after Trump in 2016 (remember "Little Marco" and Tiny Hands Trump"?).

But then Trump won and Rubio started sucking up to him, just like every other spineless Republican, including Lindsay Graham and Chris Christie. Now Rubio has sunk so low it's sad.

He's running adds in Florida claiming that Democrats are "...trying to turn little boys into girls.." Is he really that desperate? Is he that afraid of Val Deming that he has to make up ridiculous crap instead of campaigning on the issues?
He did certify Biden, and didn't involve himself in election fraud discussion. He also wasn't a true Trump backer when Trump was in power. When Trump wanted to declare a national emergency to get the Wall, Rubio pushed back. He is for the Wall, but thought it wasn't the right way of doing it.

When Republicans controlled Congress the first two years of Trump's Presidency, they couldn't repeal Obamacare or get the Wall. For the latter issue, part of it was because how Trump messaged it that Mexico would pay for it. Possibly in 2024, they will get a bill passed funding security, for the Wall, but under a different Republican President, assuming the GOP takes the Presidency.

I view Rubio more like a straight in the center Republican, between say a MAGA Senator like Tommy Tuberville, and a left Republican like Susan Collins. He is benefiting from Florida being Red, than a much closer battleground state, that he doesn't have to say much about election issues for the Left, and keep off the radar from the far Right for not being MAGA enough.
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Old 10-24-2022, 01:52 PM
 
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Yep. The GOP has run on racial animus for decades. There is no GOP without the racism and their other hostile resentments against Jewish people and women and migrants. This is who they are and whipping up hate and fear in their bigoted base is what they do in an election season.

Here in 2022 their toxicity is louder, uglier and more open as they push their midterm phony platform of crime. They have chosen to run on crime without any plan to address crime as their objective is only to ramp up racist rhetoric and foment divisiveness and increased civil strife here in the USA.

Republican Sen. Tommy Tuberville from Alabama told rally attendees in Nevada, last week, that "Black people are criminals." He went on to say, "Democrats and Blacks want crime because they want to take over what you got." No one in the GOP pushed back or condemned him.

Marjorie Taylor Greene pf GOP fame spews her White Nationalist conspiracy theories all across the nation. No one from the Republican Party will condemn her. Rather MAGA Republicanism cheers her forward.

Republican Senate candidates, including J.D. Vance in Ohio, Mastriano in Pennsylvania and Masters in Arizona, have used language that is similar to Greene’s. All Trump appointed and anointed candidates embraced by the GOP.

Kari Lake's racist campaign (Republican TV star running for governor in Arizona) likens all Native Americans to bloodthirsty savages who engage in human sacrifice. No one affiliated with the GOP will speak up against her.

GOP Senator Ron Johnson from Wisconsin, more than once, has said he wasn't afraid of Trump's White insurrectionists on Jan 6 at the Capitol, but had they been "Biden's Black Lives Matter" thugs he'd have been concerned & scared. Np Republican Party pushback.

Republican Gov DeSantis actually attempts to strip Black Floridians of their power and voice at every turn. Volumes have been written about his policies and rhetoric which reveal racism only rivaled by that of the de facto leader of the GOP, one Donald J. Trump, who is hailed for his racial rhetoric, boorish bigotry and prejudiced platform.

GOP race-baiting, aka the Southern Strategy, has paid off for the Republican Party, so expect their bigotry against fellow Americans to not only be condoned but to accelerate, here in 2022. It's all they've got.
Puh-leeze. Read the Democratic party platform, they have an obsession with race that would make Heinrich Himmler blush:
https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/.
They have to inject race into literally each and every issue. The examples that you cited are mostly weak at best. If you claim that being against crime is racist, then you're the one who is accusing a certain racial group (which one, exactly?) of being criminals.
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