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View Poll Results: Who will be the republican candidate
Desantis 35 60.34%
Trump 14 24.14%
Somone else 9 15.52%
Voters: 58. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-10-2022, 06:46 AM
 
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No one in their right mind would want Trump to run again. DeSantis is a way better choice. He actually does things for the masses as opposed to only for himself.

He still owns 25% of the party. Those MAGA folks will simply double down on the insanity.

 
Old 11-10-2022, 07:01 AM
 
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Trump is too old, just as Biden is. I think they are both somewhat senile, they just show it differently.
Time of younger people to take over.
 
Old 11-10-2022, 07:21 AM
 
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First, under Florida law, if Governor DeSantis declares for the 2024 election, he is, in theory, suppose to resign his governor seat. However, I'm not holding my breath that he will do that. The law does have some vagueness to it that he can exploit.



Regardless, let us assume that both Mr. Trump and Governor DeSantis decide to run. Now, the schedule has not been set yet, but let us assume that Iowa and New Hampshire are still the first in the nation to hold a primary and/or caucus.



Florida is usually pretty early too (remember how Rudy Guiliani forsook the early states and concentrated on Florida?). I think then South Carolina.



If Mr. DeSantis wins these early states, I can visualize Mr. Trump dropping out, and running as a third party, to prove that he is The Man.



Of course, I still doubt that Mr. Trump will run again. Tuesday's results have made no difference in my opinion. He has done well with raising money with his Leadership PAC; he has spent very little of it on supporting Republican candidates (I saw yesterday where the PAC, with 100 million in the coffers, spend $900,000, a fact that even Mr. Ted Cruz criticized last week). What does he spend the money on? He is not obligated to report details, but I bet on salaries to himself and family members, money to his country clubs, and perhaps paying expenses for his airplane. If he runs, he must distance himself from the Leadership PAC.



Nevertheless, I think that if Mr. Trump runs, there is a real danger, to the GOP, that he will switch to an independent status if things aren't going his way.



Is is logical? No.



Is it supportive of his party? No.



Is it Trumpian? Yes.
 
Old 11-10-2022, 08:14 AM
 
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First, under Florida law, if Governor DeSantis declares for the 2024 election, he is, in theory, suppose to resign his governor seat. However, I'm not holding my breath that he will do that. The law does have some vagueness to it that he can exploit.



Regardless, let us assume that both Mr. Trump and Governor DeSantis decide to run. Now, the schedule has not been set yet, but let us assume that Iowa and New Hampshire are still the first in the nation to hold a primary and/or caucus.



Florida is usually pretty early too (remember how Rudy Guiliani forsook the early states and concentrated on Florida?). I think then South Carolina.



If Mr. DeSantis wins these early states, I can visualize Mr. Trump dropping out, and running as a third party, to prove that he is The Man.



Of course, I still doubt that Mr. Trump will run again. Tuesday's results have made no difference in my opinion. He has done well with raising money with his Leadership PAC; he has spent very little of it on supporting Republican candidates (I saw yesterday where the PAC, with 100 million in the coffers, spend $900,000, a fact that even Mr. Ted Cruz criticized last week). What does he spend the money on? He is not obligated to report details, but I bet on salaries to himself and family members, money to his country clubs, and perhaps paying expenses for his airplane. If he runs, he must distance himself from the Leadership PAC.



Nevertheless, I think that if Mr. Trump runs, there is a real danger, to the GOP, that he will switch to an independent status if things aren't going his way.



Is is logical? No.



Is it supportive of his party? No.



Is it Trumpian? Yes.
If Trump went Independent, he would have to finance his campaign all the way through, hence very expensive. Plus, leaving the GOP while burning bridges that way would cause issue especially if he needs a Republican Congress on his side. He probably doesn't care about the latter, but the expenses of running the campaign, he would.

I'd guess if it was DeSantis vs Trump, and Trump was losing more than DeSantis early on, Trump would deal or stay on to the end, rather than spend his own money to run Independent. By deal, I think somehow involvement of Ivanka, e.g. cabinet role, or running mate.

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Old 11-10-2022, 09:08 AM
 
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The hate for Trump is going to make it very difficult to beat even a braindead Brandon. The libs have proven they will vote for anyone as long as its not Trump. I think the smart choice is DeSantis. Trump energizes the other side to a degree never seen.
 
Old 11-11-2022, 08:10 AM
 
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Trump is too old, just as Biden is. I think they are both somewhat senile, they just show it differently.
Time of younger people to take over.
Like Hunter Biden, as many voted for in a CD poll? or Jeb Bush?


Saw an article by a Michael A Cohen (not the notorious lawyer): Why I'm Not Sold On Ron DeSantis

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DeSantis's entire shtick is cultivating an image as the country's angriest, pettiest, and most vindictive cultural warrior. Indeed, DeSantis not only didn’t apologize for upbraiding those mask-wearing high school students; he tried to raise money off the incident....

That might be a winning strategy in a Republican presidential primary, but it will almost certainly limit DeSantis’s appeal in a general election. It’s one thing to run to the right in a primary campaign; it’s another to ostentatiously go out of your way to alienate half the country.
 
Old 11-11-2022, 08:19 AM
 
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If Trump went Independent, he would have to finance his campaign all the way through, hence very expensive. Plus, leaving the GOP while burning bridges that way would cause issue especially if he needs a Republican Congress on his side. He probably doesn't care about the latter, but the expenses of running the campaign, he would.

I'd guess if it was DeSantis vs Trump, and Trump was losing more than DeSantis early on, Trump would deal or stay on to the end, rather than spend his own money to run Independent. By deal, I think somehow involvement of Ivanka, e.g. cabinet role, or running mate.
I utterly agree that Mr. Trump would be most unwilling to spend any of his own money. Yet, he has that 100 million socked away in his Leadership PAC (last week, even Ted Cruz complained that Mr. Trump was not using that nest egg to support Republican candidates; I saw where said PAC spend $900,000, total, on elections).

But a serious Presidential campaign, even as an Independent, would cost much more than 100 million, and I have a feeling that the Big Donors behind Mr. Trump are having second thoughts.

Yet, we must remember: Mr. Trump is a petty, vindictive man. If he thought that by running as an independent would harm the Republican Party, he would do so. Mr. Trump obviously thinks the GOP is not behind him, so, the GOP must suffer.

It would not be that expensive to run a 'spoiler' campaign. Mr. Trump just has to get on the state ballots for the Presidency, in order to foul up Republican chances. I doubt he would even campaign much, hence that 100 million would probably do nicely, plus whatever amount he can bilk out of his supporters.
 
Old 11-11-2022, 10:04 AM
 
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If Trump runs in 2024 and if no one with any credibility from the republican party run against him, IMO even Joe Biden will beat him again, and by even more than he did the last time. The republican party needs to go in a different direction and fast.
 
Old 11-11-2022, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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If Trump runs in 2024 and if no one with any credibility from the republican party run against him, IMO even Joe Biden will beat him again, and by even more than he did the last time. The republican party needs to go in a different direction and fast.
Thhat is the function of the Primary. We'll just have to wait 2 years for it.
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