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He knows McCain has plenty of military stories for the asking. In comparison, he personally has none. It just seems like he was told to dig up any old war story from his family - without actually checking the facts.
I don't have a horse in this race but to me I cannot see how Obamas handlers didn't check the facts PRIOR to him speaking...
Unless of course they already knew those who support him do not CARE what he says,they would vote for him anyway.
I found it odd that they didn't check the facts as well. But then again this behavior appears to repeat itself to the detriment of all of the candidates. Some stories are just more plausible than others.
Overall context being given more weight than not, I'd say McCain's Iraq statement comes in second to sniper fire, and this story falling a bit lower on the totem pole. It just isn't quite as important nor relevant. One is policy, another experience, and another a recanting of a story retold from childhood? Fact check, yes - career changing, not so much.
It's just impossible for me to imagine someone forgetting if they've been shot at. I can even understand where Senator McCain was coming from within the context of his statement. He gets poor marks for presentation, but I'll give him the benefit of doubt due to his explanation. I just don't agree with the policy - but I don't fault or draw his statement out of context - I stand by earlier posts - he meant what he said.
From the guy we all hate/love Tim Russert
Go you Bloggers your time is now.
*** Obama’s Auschwitz gaffe: For the first time of this budding general election, the GOP blogosphere was running on all cylinders -- er, microprocessors -- when news began to circulate that Obama's claim that his uncle had helped liberate Auschwitz. The rub: The Soviets, not the Americans, liberated the concentration camp. The Obama camp eventually corrected the misstatement -- the candidate's great uncle helped liberate Buchenwald, not Auschwitz. All in all, it wasn't a big story and wasn't near the gaffe that McCain's earlier Sunni-Shiite one was. If you’re going to make a gaffe, you better make sure it’s more truth than lie. And in this case it was. Yet when you consider Obama's other misstatements or exaggerations (JFK helping to bring his father to the US, Sioux City instead of Sioux Falls, Sunshine, FL instead of Sunrise, FL, 57 states), his campaign has to be careful to remember that these types of stories/narratives can often take lives of their own.
You're never to young or old to make a mistake. Have we become so indentured into the status quo that we cannot understand or accept our politicians admitting their mistakes? One would think it's been what we've waited for.
I don't believe we've ever had a campaign in which so many of our politicians have made errors and admitted them. It's actually quite refreshing to witness this "new" phenomena in political theater. Quite an interesting year this has become.
I know, I know....it's the press...they're the ones beating up on the politicians unfairly...
This is rich coming from an Obama supporter. How quick you are to forgive him but where has your forgiveness been when Hillary makes a mistake You can't have it both ways.
This is rich coming from an Obama supporter. How quick you are to forgive him but where has your forgiveness been when Hillary makes a mistake You can't have it both ways.
Yes he can, he has a different perception on each candidates mistakes and the intent behind their mistakes.
Hillary blew it and CBS news has a very good article on line that folks might want to read. I offer you a teaser for food and fodder:
If Clinton had listened to alternative voices --if there'd be some "woman- common-sense" over in her campaign--they might have suggested that she reframe what a commander-in-chief for the 21st century means. That what's needed to deal with the challenges of this world is not more militarism and macho swagger, but a commitment to smart, principled use of non-military tools. After all, how does military might address genocidal conflicts? Or the worst pandemic in world history (AIDS)? Or staggering and destabilizing global inequality? Or, for that matter, the spread of weapons of mass destruction?
Hillary might even have given a speech about what it would mean to elect the first women president. She might have given a superb gender speech--one that people, generations to come, might be talking about just as they will be talking about Barack Obama's magnificent speech on race. But she chose not to. Instead, Clinton chose a different route. And while, on some level, I like Clinton's "I'm fighting for you" persona, and her fighter instinct, that stance came too late in the campaign and needed an anchor in a larger fight than the fate and future of her campaign.
So, opportunities lost, squandered. So, it is with sadness that one watches these last days of what began as an energizing and historic campaign.
Yet when you consider Obama's other misstatements or exaggerations (JFK helping to bring his father to the US, Sioux City instead of Sioux Falls, Sunshine, FL instead of Sunrise, FL, 57 states), his campaign has to be careful to remember that these types of stories/narratives can often take lives of their own.
He definitely needs to add another fact checker to his staff.
Yes he can, he has a different perception on each candidates mistakes and the intent behind their mistakes.
Hillary blew it and CBS news has a very good article on line that folks might want to read. I offer you a teaser for food and fodder:
If Clinton had listened to alternative voices --if there'd be some "woman- common-sense" over in her campaign--they might have suggested that she reframe what a commander-in-chief for the 21st century means. That what's needed to deal with the challenges of this world is not more militarism and macho swagger, but a commitment to smart, principled use of non-military tools. After all, how does military might address genocidal conflicts? Or the worst pandemic in world history (AIDS)? Or staggering and destabilizing global inequality? Or, for that matter, the spread of weapons of mass destruction?
Hillary might even have given a speech about what it would mean to elect the first women president. She might have given a superb gender speech--one that people, generations to come, might be talking about just as they will be talking about Barack Obama's magnificent speech on race. But she chose not to. Instead, Clinton chose a different route. And while, on some level, I like Clinton's "I'm fighting for you" persona, and her fighter instinct, that stance came too late in the campaign and needed an anchor in a larger fight than the fate and future of her campaign.
So, opportunities lost, squandered. So, it is with sadness that one watches these last days of what began as an energizing and historic campaign.
And they say the report news.
Someone should tell CBS the magnificence is the thing being talked (debated rather) about from that speech.
To add,WHY should it matter what his relatives did in the war anyway,it isn't like HE had anything to do with it...
Right, but they all need to make show how much they connect with the "regular" people in the audience. Hillary said something like, "As the granddaughter of a coal worker" or something along those lines. So I guess if my grandfather was a factory worker I would think, "Hey, she's just a regular blue collar kinda girl - I'm voting for her!"
And Obama says this, as if someone who didn't know who they were going to vote for would hear him and say, "Hey, his uncle was in WWII - I think I'm voting for him!"
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You can't have it both ways.
A perspective to be pondered
