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Old 05-28-2008, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Scott McClellan’s book details and gives premise to the notion that the US citizens were targets of a propaganda campaign to influence support of the War.

How will this affect McCain's support of the War going forward as he attempts to distance himself from the Presidents policies?
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Old 05-28-2008, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Piedmont, CA
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McClellan's claims about the Iraq War are serious blows to John McCain because they call into question his judgement or in this case, his lack thereof. Barack Obama was an opponent of the war back when it mattered. Before it started.
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Old 05-28-2008, 07:41 PM
 
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Don't fool yourself people. While I am hardly a McCain supporter, this whole story about the book etc will be old news and pretty much forgotten well before the conventions. This will have hardly any effect on McCain.
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Old 05-29-2008, 05:02 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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While I agree SAL, bad news is a cumulative thing and people tend to vote towards a good overall feel for where a President-elect can take them and the direction of the country. With the University of Michigan study showing consumer sentiment so low, the candidates management of the Country's mood will be essential to his or her chances in the fall.

Senator Gramm's economic influence on the housing policy, as well as Senator McCain admittedly adopting his economic policy from Senator Gramm's advise, do not bode well thus far in the judgment category. It will be interesting to see this play out as these are more in line with policy decision's and their associated management, or lack thereof.
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Old 05-29-2008, 05:04 AM
 
Location: Home is where the heart is
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Don't fool yourself people. While I am hardly a McCain supporter, this whole story about the book etc will be old news and pretty much forgotten well before the conventions. This will have hardly any effect on McCain.
You're probably right, November is still a long way off. The book would have more effect if it was released in September.
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Old 05-29-2008, 05:14 AM
 
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I believe it would have been less effective in the fall. Seeing it then would have sparked more comments along the line of motivation as it has already been received with a great degree of "puzzlement" by the players involved. These things take a life of their own at times and herein lies the possibility that the defections we saw en mass within the GOP before, may resume. I don't think any of us is under any pre-conceived notion that the GOP isn't in for a massive rebuild. Scott just braced the door for more to follow.

Another side affect will be a refreshing in the minds of many Independents and Obama-Republicans with why they are unhappy with the Conservative or neo-cons if you wish, in the first place. This helps solidify them in place for the time being as they wait for the first debates.
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Old 05-29-2008, 05:27 AM
 
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It may be helping his key supporters to stay on the side of the good force.
NYT: Senators for McCain quit group after ads - The New York Times - MSNBC.com

Senators Joseph I. Lieberman and Lindsey Graham, prominent surrogates for Senator John McCain’s presidential campaign, stepped down Wednesday from their positions with an independent group that released a pair of Internet advertisements attacking Senator Barack Obama on Iraq.
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Old 05-29-2008, 05:52 AM
 
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Scott McClellan’s book details and gives premise to the notion that the US citizens were targets of a propaganda campaign to influence support of the War.

How will this affect McCain's support of the War going forward as he attempts to distance himself from the Presidents policies?
It sinks him even further. He can't change his spots now that he's running. McCain is toast.
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Old 05-29-2008, 06:35 AM
 
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It sinks him even further. He can't change his spots now that he's running. McCain is toast.
How so? Senator McCain has clearly shown what he believes to be an Iraq policy that is getting results and good news has been coming out of Iraq recently. How does this news sink him if he can prove the current Iraqi surge is working?
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Old 05-29-2008, 06:43 AM
 
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How so? Senator McCain has clearly shown what he believes to be an Iraq policy that is getting results and good news has been coming out of Iraq recently. How does this news sink him if he can prove the current Iraqi surge is working?
I don't think it hurts McCain directly, but it hurts some people he was considering for his staff.

OTOH, McCain may not have wanted these people on his staff anyway, and now he has a way to keep the GOP from pressuring him to have advisors he doesn't want.
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