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Haha! You can see from the rage of the Obamabots -- they can't handle hearing anymore about Reverend Wright!
I still love the fact that Rove pointed out that Obama changed his story EIGHT TIMES! The quotes are all in the article along with the references of where they came from. Personally, I only thought Obama changed his story four or five times so I was quite surprised to read all 8 quotes!
Does this mean that you're no longer supporting Obama?
Darn it, Rove! Keep this hushed up 'til after the election, would ya!
If Rove said it, probably. I can't be bothered to check the lies that fall out each time he opens his mouth.
He gave direct quotes as well as when and where he said them yet you call them lies, while admitting in another post that you don't know, because Rove is the one that pointed it out and it was against your guy.
Excuse me? All he does is lay out what Obama has said in chronological order.
The problem is he tries to twist and parse the facts, and counts on us not to read too deeply. It's disappointing because it's exactly the same cheap technique employed by the crudest of bloggers, right- and left-wing.
In each of those Rev Wright quotes Obama stands by his old pastor until the last one when he had to admit Rev Wright was deliberately going after him. None of them are "explanations."
The flag pin - "sometimes I wear it, sometimes I dont" - so what. Obama never gives "shifting explanations" - he says the same thing each time. Rove also misleads about the "preconditions" business.
Rove winds up the word count with two paras that say nothing new - the same old gibberish he could have cut and pasted.
Just like the scaremongers who put out articles with misleading headlines, Rove counts on us not to read the whole article and take it apart for ourselves.
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I supported Clinton but if she's out of it, I'll be voting for McCain.
....McCain's and Hillary's platforms are very different...?
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Originally Posted by UB50
I hate the idea of giving up on Universal Healthcare - but Obama isn't going to go that route either.
"[Obama's] plan begins by covering every American. If you already have health insurance, the only thing that will change for you under this plan is the amount of money you will spend on premiums. That will be less. If you are one of the 45 million Americans who don't have health insurance, you will have it after this plan becomes law. No one will be turned away because of a preexisting condition or illness.”
Plus cutting costs, increasing transparency, tightening up the whole medical care and insurance morasses. I think he can get it done.
The problem is he tries to twist and parse the facts, and counts on us not to read too deeply. It's disappointing because it's exactly the same cheap technique employed by the crudest of bloggers, right- and left-wing.
In each of those Rev Wright quotes Obama stands by his old pastor until the last one when he had to admit Rev Wright was deliberately going after him. None of them are "explanations."
The flag pin - "sometimes I wear it, sometimes I dont" - so what. Obama never gives "shifting explanations" - he says the same thing each time. Rove also misleads about the "preconditions" business.
Rove winds up the word count with two paras that say nothing new - the same old gibberish he could have cut and pasted.
Just like the scaremongers who put out articles with misleading headlines, Rove counts on us not to read the whole article and take it apart for themselves.
What is particularly telling is the persona which is attracted to Roves style of storytelling. His defenders realize too late the characterization of their own methodology for not only what they will accept as true, but what it takes to get them to accept it as true. They have unwittingly boxed themselves through acceptance and must either stand by and be pummeled or denounce the thing totally.....but hey, ya gotta cut off a raccoon's hand to get him to release the shiny thing.
....McCain's and Hillary's platforms are very different...?
"[Obama's] plan begins by covering every American. If you already have health insurance, the only thing that will change for you under this plan is the amount of money you will spend on premiums. That will be less. If you are one of the 45 million Americans who don't have health insurance, you will have it after this plan becomes law. No one will be turned away because of a preexisting condition or illness.”
Plus cutting costs, increasing transparency, tightening up the whole medical care and insurance morasses. I think he can get it done.
If you do more research, you'll find that Obama and McCain's plans are more similar than Hillary and Obama's. Obama's also will cost 2X what Hillary's would (per person).
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