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Old 05-30-2008, 01:50 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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Thank god that IF is not when and it's an IF that cannot happen.
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Old 05-31-2008, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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GOOD GRIEF, Guys . . .

It's a JOKE . . . nothing more . . . nothing less!

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Old 05-31-2008, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Major Metro
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I could not have explained this any better!

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There's a big difference here...hopefully I can explain it so you all understand...

People joke that Hillary is a witch because of her personality and her behavior. Nobody is suggesting that all females are witches. Calling her a witch is not insulting the entire female gender, it is only insulting one particular individual.

On the other hand, does Obama act like a monkey? The answer is no, his personality and behaviors are not similar to a monkey in any way, shape, or form. However, certain people joke that black people look like monkeys. So comparing Obama to a monkey is not insulting the individual based on his personal behavior...it's insulting him for being black, and insulting all black people.

Does this make sense?

Calling Hillary a witch would be comparable to calling Obama an A-Hole...neither indicates sexism or racism.

Comparing Obama to a monkey is like saying Hillary should be at home barefoot and pregnant.
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Old 05-31-2008, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Oh, yes, indeed. That surely justifies all of the nasty pictures and things posted on this thread. Anyone with even a SHRED of decency could see how offensive some of the posts here are -- particularly the ones with Hillary's face on sex toys.
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Old 06-13-2008, 11:04 PM
 
Location: UWS -- Lucky Me!
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Does Obama act like the people in this silly movie, "Soul Plane"? . . .
So again, you're stereotyping black culture. This is 180 degrees from calling Hillary a witch, because of her individual personality.

Do you people honestly not see the difference? This is a prime example of bigotry and racism...you are not insulting the person, you are insulting the race.
No, I honestly do not see a meaningful difference. What qualities about Hillary remind you of a witch? Besides "witch-like," I mean. There are other words that don't have sexist overtones. Expand your vocabulary and use those words, please.

Personally, while I supported different candidates (my first choice withdrew early), I do feel that the sexism she encountered has been more subtle and pervasive than any racism aimed at my ultimate candidate, Obama.
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Old 06-14-2008, 04:28 AM
 
Location: UWS -- Lucky Me!
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And by way of illustration:
TV News on the Really Important Issues of the Campaign

No way could anyone compile a montage of media talking heads dishing out this much racism as coolly (and proud of themselves for doing so) as they dish out the sexism. They'd be out on their bottoms in a day (as they should), and they know it.

Lighten up? This is a joke? Imagine it were your daughter they were talking about. By extension, you know, it is. Your daughter, your sister, your mom. Anyone whose makeup was ever a little bit smudged or whose voice is higher than a tenor's or who doesn't have an Adam's apple.
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