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I'm so glad this thread is still going. Everyone needs to see that video.
I agree. Hardcore liberals will love it but who cares? They're idiots anyway. It's the people who are sitting on the fence that need to see what a radical crackpot Obama really is.
I agree. Hardcore liberals will love it but who cares? They're idiots anyway. It's the people who are sitting on the fence that need to see what a radical crackpot Obama really is.
I am an independent, and the way I see it, Obama is proposing nothing radical here, and has in fact set reasonable HYPOTHETICAL goals. All of these talking points have conditions, i.e. "I will negotiate with Russia to take ICBMS off hair-trigger." There is no unilateral executive order on the table, other than NOT investing in silly Reagan-era physically impractical space weapons systems.
Let's not forget it was a republican who originally negotiated NPT (look it up), which has reduced the threat of scorched earth nuclear war exponentially, although it technically shrank our arsenal by a large margin. Enough alarmism about Obama already. How about discussing real concerns and costs about McCain v. Obama...the war in Iraq, health care, taxes. They both have well-defended positions in these areas but you can only pick one. Choose based on policy, not hyperbole, and cut the sensational crap.
I am an independent, and the way I see it, Obama is proposing nothing radical here, and has in fact set reasonable HYPOTHETICAL goals. All of these talking points have conditions, i.e. "I will negotiate with Russia to take ICBMS off hair-trigger." There is no unilateral executive order on the table, other than NOT investing in silly Reagan-era physically impractical space weapons systems.
Let's not forget it was a republican who originally negotiated NPT (look it up), which has reduced the threat of scorched earth nuclear war exponentially, although it technically shrank our arsenal by a large margin. Enough alarmism about Obama already. How about discussing real concerns and costs about McCain v. Obama...the war in Iraq, health care, taxes. They both have well-defended positions in these areas but you can only pick one. Choose based on policy, not hyperbole, and cut the sensational crap.
I suggest you actually do a little research on Obama before posting again. He is a radical socialist. His entire background and current policy proposals are rooted in it. For a little more info on how that idiot would eviscerate the military:
But please, keep drawing your world-view from Moveon.org. Some of you people never cease to amaze with your naive, blind idea of how the world really works.
I've never read anything from "moveon"
I just pay attention.
Blind indeed. If you had any clue to what's going on with our money, you would not make such tragically naive comments.
It's ironic that you mention the real word. Maybe once you grow up, read a little and mature a little, you will see what the real world is.
I suggest you actually do a little research on Obama before posting again. He is a radical socialist. His entire background and current policy proposals are rooted in it. For a little more info on how that idiot would eviscerate the military:
Uh, Ok, first of all Satch, you may want to get your news from a source that doesn't make FOX News look like AirAmerica Second of all, there's nothing socialistic about wanting to reduce unnecessary government spending. That's pretty much the opposite of socialism. Our current military budget is larger than that China, Russia and the rest of the Western hemisphere put together, and China can't even move an olympic torch securely around the world, much less a military force.
Finally, you are about the angriest classic Louis Armstrong fan I've ever encountered, myself included
I suggest you actually do a little research on Obama before posting again. He is a radical socialist. His entire background and current policy proposals are rooted in it. For a little more info on how that idiot would eviscerate the military:
I love how they worded that article. Our military technology is fine we just have to get rid of the crap and buy what we need and not a penny more. Here's an example of waste of spending. We still use the interceptor body armor in iraq when dragon skin has been said to be superior, the military was caught in a lie saying it did a report when it didn't do it till later. The maker of the interceptor body armor said if he was going to Iraq he would prefer dragon skin. That is 1 waste right there. I could go on and on about waste and how we could adjust those same dollars to buy what we need to keep a military that would keep people from marching on the DC. Stop feeding into the BS they try to spin on the stories.
Uh, Ok, first of all Satch, you may want to get your news from a source that doesn't make FOX News look like AirAmerica Second of all, there's nothing socialistic about wanting to reduce unnecessary government spending. That's pretty much the opposite of socialism. Our current military budget is larger than that China, Russia and the rest of the Western hemisphere put together, and China can't even move an olympic torch securely around the world, much less a military force.
Finally, you are about the angriest classic Louis Armstrong fan I've ever encountered, myself included
I love how they worded that article. Our military technology is fine we just have to get rid of the crap and buy what we need and not a penny more. Here's an example of waste of spending. We still use the interceptor body armor in iraq when dragon skin has been said to be superior, the military was caught in a lie saying it did a report when it didn't do it till later. The maker of the interceptor body armor said if he was going to Iraq he would prefer dragon skin. That is 1 waste right there. I could go on and on about waste and how we could adjust those same dollars to buy what we need to keep a military that would keep people from marching on the DC. Stop feeding into the BS they try to spin on the stories.
I'm not saying there's not waste or mistakes made in the military budget. However, I'm sure that it's even far worse in the rest of the government bureaucracy. Welfare and Medicare fraud, in all likelihood, puts the military faux pas to shame. The big difference is, national security trumps everything else when it come to prioritizing.
I suggest you actually do a little research on Obama before posting again. He is a radical socialist. His entire background and current policy proposals are rooted in it. For a little more info on how that idiot would eviscerate the military:
That link is blocked through my work connection as "hate speech/violence"
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Second of all, there's nothing socialistic about wanting to reduce unnecessary government spending. That's pretty much the opposite of socialism. Our current military budget is larger than that China, Russia and the rest of the Western hemisphere put together, and China can't even move an olympic torch securely around the world, much less a military force. 
