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Old 05-30-2008, 05:24 PM
 
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One of the most constant criticisms of the Bush administration regarding the war in Iraq has been that President Bush “lied us into war.” When asked for the specific “lie” the answer is usually that Bush oversold the threat Saddam Hussein posed to the United States. The “lie” is said to be that Bush and his administration emphasized only evidence that supported the decision to invade.

But those on the left have consistently ignored or downplayed the seriousness of the threat most intelligence told us Iraq posed before the war. Even worse, they are now ignoring the progress, and in many cases downright successes, being seen in Iraq since the “surge.”

A lot of attention is being given to the new book by McClellan who calls the decision to invade Iraq a "serious strategic blunder." The book was touted by many this week as proof that “Bush lied” about Iraq, but in an interview on the Today show Thursday he said something else.

.“I trusted the president's foreign policy team and I believed the president when he talked about the grave and gathering danger from Iraq…I believe he believed it was a grave danger, too.” McClellan believes Bush “convinced himself of that,” but there were some very real reasons to believe it – reasons that convinced not only Bush that Saddam posed a serious danger, but also many Democrats, including even John Kerry and Ted Kennedy.

When those on the left continue to claim there was no reason to go into Iraq and that the entire war was based on “Bush’s lies” they are lying to the American public.

Lying About Iraq::By Lorie Byrd
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Old 05-30-2008, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Take it from the top.
What was the Reason we invaded Iraq?
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Old 05-30-2008, 05:55 PM
 
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YouTube - HILLARY CLINTON VOTED FOR IRAQ WAR - AND DONT YOU FORGET IT!
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Old 05-30-2008, 06:06 PM
 
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Take it from the top.
What was the Reason we invaded Iraq?
How many do you want? BushCo had several...they changed with the wind.....flip flopped with the current pressure....




Yes, some Democrats voted to give the president authority to invade Iraq....they were given FALSE information or no information BY THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION which blatantly and falsely connected 9/11 with Iraq. They believed they'd be consulted before decisions were made but buship got the power and ran with it into an unending war..
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Old 05-30-2008, 06:21 PM
 
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Wrong, the Senators who at the time had security clearance where ALL briefed beforehand and then were given a chance to ask questions. Then they were given a full and complete run down of everything.
Senators like John Kerry had the same information and the President did and yet voted to send them into war.

If these people did not have full and complete information they should have NOT VOTED or voted no. Something this important and they voted without the proper intel, that tells me they maek poor decisions.

No way should a Senator vote us to go to war unless they are 110% certain the information is there.

So, its either they failed to read the information ( Kerry and other democrats have already admitted they didnt read the entire paperwork given to them )and sent our kids to war without doing what they get paid to do or they made a poor decision and voted yes when they knew they might not be privy to the security information.

Why on earth you you vote yes if you knew something wasnt right?

They cannot make excuses anymore, they hate Bush from the start and fought with him from day one but on this day they voted with him. Give me a break, they too made the mistakes

Its just as easy to vote NO as it is YES. They failed us.
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Old 05-30-2008, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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Wrong, the Senators who at the time had security clearance where ALL briefed beforehand and then were given a chance to ask questions. Then they were given a full and complete run down of everything.
Senators like John Kerry had the same information and the President did and yet voted to send them into war.

If these people did not have full and complete information they should have NOT VOTED or voted no. Something this important and they voted without the proper intel, that tells me they maek poor decisions.

No way should a Senator vote us to go to war unless they are 110% certain the information is there.

So, its either they failed to read the information ( Kerry and other democrats have already admitted they didnt read the entire paperwork given to them )and sent our kids to war without doing what they get paid to do or they made a poor decision and voted yes when they knew they might not be privy to the security information.

Why on earth you you vote yes if you knew something wasnt right?

They cannot make excuses anymore, they hate Bush from the start and fought with him from day one but on this day they voted with him. Give me a break, they too made the mistakes

Its just as easy to vote NO as it is YES. They failed us.
Hey have you or any of Bush's buddies found the WMDs yet? After all, we were told that's why we were going to war.
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Old 05-30-2008, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Over Yonder
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Exclamation Guess what!

The political party status of any of our representatives makes no difference what so ever once they are in Washington. Everyone needs to get this whole idea of one side versus the other out of their heads. They are all essentially on the same team and do what is needed to further their goals. These men are not adversaries in some great battle of wills. They are lazy, self righteous frat boys/girls who always have their mutual hands in the cookie jar. Sunshine is dead on as far as the fault laying not only at Bush's feet, but all our distinguished representatives. True, Bush was certainly not the most truthful with his intelligence, but it was up to our senators to look into things for themselves. What kind of a safe guard against oppression can they be if they don't at least do a little research of their own. There was just as much info. out there saying NO to the war as there was GO to war. All they did was back their president's play because the majority of them knew that a war could do nothing but fatten their pockets. And please make no mistake, that is the main agenda of most of our people in positions of power. Not to mention that this war has not worked out like most other wars in our past, because it has not created the economic stimulation like wars of the past. Sure, a few companies like Haliburton, Boeing, and the Carlyle Group are doing extremely well, but that has meant virtually nothing to the American people. Instead, we have suffered innumerable hardships since this war began with no sign of relief. The time has come for a change folks, and I don't just mean another president. It is time for the common people to take a more active interest in the running of our country. The only reason they are able to do the things they do is because we, the average people, don't want to be bothered with the everyday problems of running a successful, truly democratic country. All we have to do is take the power back. I am ready to do my part to cure this malfunctioning system. Will anyone else take up the banner of freedom, and fight for our way of life. I certainly hope you will, because if we are not united, we cannot take a stand.
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Old 05-30-2008, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Southeast
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Hey have you or any of Bush's buddies found the WMDs yet? After all, we were told that's why we were going to war.
There were WMDs, no intelligent person would deny that. Bush knew they were there, hell, we even sold them the WMDs. Minus of course the fact that the WMDs were used against the Iraqi people, the original purpose of the US selling so many weapons to the Middle East was to keep the Soviets in check during their invasion of Afghanistan.
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Old 05-30-2008, 06:53 PM
 
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Even with nuclear weopons we shouldn't have invaded Iraq because Saddam(even with WMD) wasn't a threat to U.S

Here is John Mearshimer and Stephan Walt---people who you almost never here in the media---talking about Iraq invasion.

John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt, "An unnecessary war," Foreign Policy, Jan/Feb 2003

Here is President Bush (senior) advisor and friend, BRENT SCOWCROFT opinion on the Iraq invasion in 2002. He also worked for current President.

The Wall Street Journal Online - Featured Article
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Old 05-30-2008, 06:53 PM
 
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The time has come for a change folks, and I don't just mean another president. It is time for the common people to take a more active interest in the running of our country. The only reason they are able to do the things they do is because we, the average people, don't want to be bothered with the everyday problems of running a successful, truly democratic country. All we have to do is take the power back. I am ready to do my part to cure this malfunctioning system. Will anyone else take up the banner of freedom, and fight for our way of life. I certainly hope you will, because if we are not united, we cannot take a stand.
Wow. Hear hear.
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