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06-01-2008, 11:28 AM
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Location: London UK & Florida USA
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If the popular vote was the way the President or nominee was picked, there would be many different presidents to what America had. Obama should let the delegates in Fl & Mi get full voting rights. He would be over the 2118 now.
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06-01-2008, 11:28 AM
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Location: Charlotte
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Based on the manner in which Senator Clinton ran her campaign, if the determining metric had been popular vote, she would have been destroyed regardless. She wasn't prepared to win, Senator Obama was. And that's just the evidence we see.
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06-01-2008, 12:03 PM
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Hillary Clinton leads in the Popular Vote!!!
WHO CARES!!! Delegates elect nominees not the popular vote! Give it up!
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06-01-2008, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 100%Michigan
I support Hillary Clinton
Hillary for president
Woot Hillary
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Woot Obama! How's that?  |
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06-01-2008, 12:15 PM
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Location: London UK & Florida USA
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LoL Who would have thought that Obama would trash Clinton. He won more states and more delegates.. NUFF SAID!!!!!
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06-01-2008, 01:33 PM
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Location: San Antonio North
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blacknight04
Michigan shouldn't be counted with the popular vote because Obama got 0 votes since his name wasn't even on the ballot.
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He choose that no one else. |
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06-01-2008, 01:40 PM
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Location: Piedmont, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ryneone
He choose that no one else.
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That's irrelevent.
Had Michigan been in play, his name wouldnt have been removed from the ballot.
But because it had been made clear to all the candidates that Michigan would not count, his name was removed at Obama's discretion. |
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06-01-2008, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by UB50
Now that Michigan and Florida have been decided, here is the popular vote totals via Real Clear Politics: ( RealClearPolitics - 2008 Elections - Democratic Vote Count)
Total votes with Florida and Michigan:
Hillary: 17,428,986
Obama: 17,266,433
Hillary leads by 162,553 votes
Total votes with Florida and Michigan and the caucus estimates for IA, WA, NV and ME:
Hillary: 17,652,848
Obama: 17,600,517
Hillary leads by 52,331 votes
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yeah, if you figure 0.0 for Obama in Michigan. i mean, seriously, is that being honest or fair? should we honestly just assume that zero, or for that matter, less than 52,000 people in the state of Michigan would have voted for Obama? |
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06-01-2008, 06:15 PM
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Location: San Antonio North
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 18Montclair
That's irrelevent.
Had Michigan been in play, his name wouldnt have been removed from the ballot.
But because it had been made clear to all the candidates that Michigan would not count, his name was removed at Obama's discretion.
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Now he is complaining.
Looks like another stupid move.
But he you will never see it anyway that does not bode well for Obama will you? |
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06-01-2008, 07:21 PM
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Location: Bridgetown, Ohio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blacknight04
Michigan shouldn't be counted with the popular vote because Obama got 0 votes since his name wasn't even on the ballot.
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Even worse than that -- if someone wrote in Obama's name (and I imagine there were a few that did), that ballot was NOT COUNTED!  |
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