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Old 06-01-2008, 10:28 AM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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If the popular vote was the way the President or nominee was picked, there would be many different presidents to what America had. Obama should let the delegates in Fl & Mi get full voting rights. He would be over the 2118 now.
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Old 06-01-2008, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Based on the manner in which Senator Clinton ran her campaign, if the determining metric had been popular vote, she would have been destroyed regardless. She wasn't prepared to win, Senator Obama was. And that's just the evidence we see.
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Old 06-01-2008, 11:03 AM
 
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Hillary Clinton leads in the Popular Vote!!!

WHO CARES!!! Delegates elect nominees not the popular vote! Give it up!
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Old 06-01-2008, 11:06 AM
 
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I support Hillary Clinton

Hillary for president

Woot Hillary
Woot Obama! How's that?
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Old 06-01-2008, 11:15 AM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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LoL Who would have thought that Obama would trash Clinton. He won more states and more delegates.. NUFF SAID!!!!!
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Old 06-01-2008, 12:33 PM
 
Location: San Antonio North
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Michigan shouldn't be counted with the popular vote because Obama got 0 votes since his name wasn't even on the ballot.

He choose that no one else.
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Old 06-01-2008, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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He choose that no one else.
That's irrelevent.

Had Michigan been in play, his name wouldnt have been removed from the ballot.

But because it had been made clear to all the candidates that Michigan would not count, his name was removed at Obama's discretion.
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Old 06-01-2008, 04:24 PM
 
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Now that Michigan and Florida have been decided, here is the popular vote totals via Real Clear Politics: (RealClearPolitics - 2008 Elections - Democratic Vote Count)

Total votes with Florida and Michigan:

Hillary: 17,428,986
Obama: 17,266,433

Hillary leads by 162,553 votes



Total votes with Florida and Michigan and the caucus estimates for IA, WA, NV and ME:

Hillary: 17,652,848
Obama: 17,600,517

Hillary leads by 52,331 votes

Woot Hillary!!
yeah, if you figure 0.0 for Obama in Michigan. i mean, seriously, is that being honest or fair? should we honestly just assume that zero, or for that matter, less than 52,000 people in the state of Michigan would have voted for Obama?
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Old 06-01-2008, 05:15 PM
 
Location: San Antonio North
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That's irrelevent.

Had Michigan been in play, his name wouldnt have been removed from the ballot.

But because it had been made clear to all the candidates that Michigan would not count, his name was removed at Obama's discretion.
Now he is complaining.

Looks like another stupid move.

But he you will never see it anyway that does not bode well for Obama will you?
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Old 06-01-2008, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Bridgetown, Ohio
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Michigan shouldn't be counted with the popular vote because Obama got 0 votes since his name wasn't even on the ballot.
Even worse than that -- if someone wrote in Obama's name (and I imagine there were a few that did), that ballot was NOT COUNTED!
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