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Old 11-06-2008, 01:16 PM
 
Location: In My Own Little World. . .
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That's called the "one-drop rule," and it has always been custom and de facto law in America. White folks came up with that, by the way.

As you know, the vast majority of blacks in America are biracial or triracial.
No, that's called the "stupid way to identify someone rule." We really have to get away from this, folks.
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Old 11-06-2008, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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No, that's called the "stupid way to identify someone rule." We really have to get away from this, folks.
OK........so what's a better way? The best way would be to call everyone "American," but we all know that ain't gonna happen...........
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Old 11-06-2008, 01:24 PM
 
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Blanket statements about whites or blacks, purple polkadotted etc etc are just that. Blanket statements which really should not even require a "debate". Except in the statement that "The best way would be to call everyone "American" despite their political angle.
Shouldn't we be working towards that?
Any preference to continually bash fellow countrymen/women because you disagree with them is counterproductive.
Ain't democracy grand?
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Old 11-06-2008, 01:27 PM
 
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OK........so what's a better way? The best way would be to call everyone "American," but we all know that ain't gonna happen...........
What do you mean, what's a better way? Why do we have to define people by their race anyway? Yes, before you say it, I know that's naive. But in a perfect world Obama would just be "the new President." I just like to remind people that their new "black" president is actually half white.
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:31 PM
 
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Barack is just as much White as Black. Most people dont realize this, which is sad. Color does not effect job performance.
No, it doesn't exactly affect job performance. But it does affect his experiences, which are part of his decision-making process. And it does affect outside perception, which is part of the job of POTUS-- to represent the United States to the rest of the world.
In a world where racial, ethnic, gender, religious, disability, and a host of other superficial distinctions still very much matter, America's first non-lily-white (for all you out there howling "but he's only half Black!") Chief Exec is a very big deal.
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Everybody is going to hurt you, you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for-B Marley
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Obviously, Obama wouldn't be where he is today--the Democratic Presidential nominee--if it wasn't for tremendous white support. And although he'll likely be the next President, what I want to know is how do whites really feel about him?

From my experience, whites, while not racist, are certainly race conscious--and in the case of blacks, easily stereotype them as poor, uneducated, inarticulate, crime prone, etc, until the black person proves themselves to be otherwise.

When faced with educated, affluent, and "articulate" blacks, I think most whites are dumbfounded, shocked, and in awe--as it's easy to buy into stereotypes and classify minorities rather than realize them as individuals.

So my question is, how do whites really feel about Obama?
Oh help me rhonda!
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Old 11-06-2008, 10:52 PM
 
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Good Man, Bad Policies, Awful Wife
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:05 PM
 
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OK........so what's a better way? The best way would be to call everyone "American," but we all know that ain't gonna happen...........

True, since Jesse came up with the silly term of African American that black folks seem to cling to almost like it was a gun or some religion they may or may NOT have had hundreds of years ago.
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:18 PM
 
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I alwasy sid Carter was a decent man bvut a real crummy president. Does that make me georgia racist. I certian have no trouble saying that Obama freeind Rev Wright is a blck racist much like the whirte supremist are white racist. Buit it seesm Obama and his supports have a heard time recognizing racism within their ranks; except in a primary race of their own which had the race card played almost everyday and charges of racism.
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Old 11-07-2008, 12:35 AM
 
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I did not vote for Obama.
I also did not vote for Clinton, or Kerry, or 'Dukakis' or Carter.
I really do not care what a person happens to LOOK like when they are running for office.
When it comes to voting for leaders what I look for is leadership experience.
Obama has none, and the fact that he has espoused some very left wing views, and consistently voted for left wing policies and has consistently supported left wing causes and has habitually sough out patently anti-American friends and associates lead me to believe that he was not the person to vote for. Obamas ethnic origins could not be more irrelevant.

.....but the great irony of all this is....that is EXACTLY why he got elected......because of his "race"...
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