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Old 06-24-2008, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Gee, I guess the Shrub's misguided action in Iraq really DID NOT put an end to terrorist attacks as many try to claim.
Have we been attacked again? Even though most experts thought we would be.

All through the 90's, the terrorists operated unfettered, with no threat of retribution or consequences.

Are you really this blinded by your hatred of "W" that you cannot see the big picture?
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Old 06-24-2008, 01:51 PM
 
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Some of you must not live in major metropolitan areas or read a heck of a lot. The hand of
Bin Laden was on the attack from day one and the question was about Iraqi co involvement. The first World Trade Center attack was Bin Laden who was sworn to do it again. It was also known their fascination with air attacks.

FBI: Jailed cleric's illness triggers al Qaeda attack fears - CNN.com

bdel-Rahman has strong ties to al Qaeda and is seen as a key theological force behind the terror group. He is an influential figure for Egyptian Islamic Jihad, most of whose members joined al Qaeda. He has been mentioned often by Osama bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri.

Abdel-Rahman, who is serving life in a U.S. prison, has called for attacks if he dies in jail. Law enforcement sources said there is no intelligence to suggest there are any attacks being planned.

The cleric has been imprisoned since 1995 for inspiring the 1993 World Trade Center attack and a thwarted plot to attack bridges and tunnels, an FBI building and U.N. headquarters in New York.
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Old 06-24-2008, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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The hand of
Bin Laden was on the attack from day one and the question was about Iraqi co involvement.The first World Trade Center attack was Bin Laden who was sworn to do it again. It was also known their fascination with air attacks.
Yes, you are right. But, the clinton admin didn't feel they had the evidence to actually take Bin Laden out. Appearances were too important to bubba.
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Old 06-24-2008, 01:54 PM
 
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Have we been attacked again? Even though most experts thought we would be.
You mean before or after the anthrax mail attacks in late '01? Remember that?
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Old 06-24-2008, 01:54 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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How do you know they didn't?
Please cite evidence in the Commission Report or any other reliable source that they did.



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Yes, going back all the way to the clinton admin and congress.

Have you availed yourself of some of the rhetoric from the dems and bubba at that time?

Probably my fault to bellieve that even a twelve year old would realize priorities changed dramatically on 9/11, it's a shame there was a failure to recognize that in the White House.
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Old 06-24-2008, 01:56 PM
 
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Yes, you are right. But, the clinton admin didn't feel they had the evidence to actually take Bin Laden out. Appearances were too important to bubba.


Having a lack of evidence you'd prefer a government sponsored lynch mob?

Isn't that what got Saddam on the bad guy list?
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Old 06-24-2008, 01:57 PM
 
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Probably my fault to bellieve that even a twelve year old would realize priorities changed dramatically on 9/11, it's a shame there was a failure to recognize that in the White House.
Priorities did indeed change because of 9/11. We could no more let be a sworn enemy like Saddam with all his REPORTED WMD, and nuclear ambitions, not to mention his violations of UN SC resolutions.
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Old 06-24-2008, 01:57 PM
 
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Gee, I guess the Shrub's misguided action in Iraq really DID NOT put an end to terrorist attacks as many try to claim.
Geeez please check your history and see when the listed events occured and if they were prior to the election of George Bush and during which Presidents term?
Come on folks if you wish to attack the Right do some homework and don't make them look any smarter.
US Cole:
President Bill Clinton declared, "If, as it now appears, this was an act of terrorism, it was a despicable and cowardly act. We will find out who was responsible and hold them accountable". Some critics have pointed out that, under U.S. law, an attack against a military target does not meet the legal definition of terrorism[13][14][15][16] (see: 22 USC § 2656f(d)(2)).

Kenya embassy attack:
NAIROBI EMBASSY RECEIVED WARNING OF COMING ATTACK - New York Times
Nine months before the attack on the American Embassy here, United States intelligence officials received a detailed warning that Islamic radicals were plotting to blow up the building, according to Kenyan and American officials.

Clinton Administration official acknowledged that the embassy in Kenya had received a specific warning about an attack. ''It is embarrassing,'' this official said, quickly adding: ''It is tragic.'' Asked why the embassy took few steps to improve its security after the warning, he said: ''That's the 64-million-dollar question.''

Just a sample

Please I am on your side but do some research
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Old 06-24-2008, 01:58 PM
 
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Have we been attacked again? Even though most experts thought we would be.

Spain and England, OUR ALLIES, were attacked.

In a TRUE alliance an attack on one is considered an attack on all.

Or are you suggesting we just hang out allies out to dry as long as we're not attacked?
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Old 06-24-2008, 01:58 PM
 
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Please cite evidence in the Commission Report or any other reliable source that they did.
You made the claim about Libya. You find YOUR evidence.
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