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Old 06-26-2008, 11:57 AM
 
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I dont recall a huge outcry for those wanting Bin Ladens head after the previous attacks he orchestrated.. Where was your outrage when Clinton was President because Bin Laden was breathing?
Clinton didn't do much about Bin Laden, and the Republican Congress wasn't all that concerned about it either. They were more concerned about Bubba getting a BJ.

And incidentally, Bin Laden himself apparently dropped from Dubya's to-do list around the time he was looking for a way to implicate Saddam in 9/11. You don't hear him mention Osama very much, do you? Dead or alive, indeed.
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Old 06-26-2008, 12:39 PM
 
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Just as a side note, al qaeda were not discovered to be behind the USS Cole until Bubba took over. His inaction emboldened bin laden to plot 9/11.

Just as his inaction against bin laden today emboldens terrorists world wide.
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Old 06-26-2008, 02:17 PM
 
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I was referring to Bush's actions as not having prevented attacks in England and Spain although many try to credit hime with ending attacks post 9/11.
Geeeez I knew Obama was responsible for everything anybody he ever knew said but is Bush now responsible for security operations in Britain and Spain? How is that on him and not their security forces?
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Old 06-26-2008, 02:33 PM
 
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Just as a side note, al qaeda were not discovered to be behind the USS Cole until Bubba took over. His inaction emboldened bin laden to plot 9/11. Just as his inaction against bin laden today emboldens terrorists world wide.
That is patently false. They knew exactly who did it and who was behind it.

"His inaction" was not just about the Cole. "His inaction" goes all the way back through the 90's, starting in 93 with the first WTC bombing.

It is a fact, from bin Ladens own lips, that the Somalia "Blackhawk Down" episode, is what led Bin Laden to believe the US was weak and wouldn't tolerate "casualties". That is what emboldened him. Considering all the other attacks throughout the nineties, without consequences for the perpetrators, we can understand that mentality now.

"W", on the hand, has gone after the terrorists relentlessly and ruthlessly.
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Old 06-26-2008, 02:43 PM
 
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Just as a side note, al qaeda were not discovered to be behind the USS Cole until Bubba took over. His inaction emboldened bin laden to plot 9/11.

Just as his inaction against bin laden today emboldens terrorists world wide.
Are you sure he was responsible, or just another "conspiracy" of the Bush administration?
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Old 06-26-2008, 02:50 PM
 
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That is patently false. They knew exactly who did it and who was behind it.
"W", on the hand, has gone after the terrorists relentlessly and ruthlessly.
Not true. Check into it. The Yemen authorities were not being cooperative with the investigation. The al qaeda connection was not made until after Bush took office. This is public knowledge.


"W" on the other hand after vowing to get Bin Laden Dead or Alive, the Mastermind of the greatest terrorist attack ever on American soil, has completely forgotten about him while he continues his tragic focus on a muddled neocon vision of a flowering Garden of Democracy in the Middle East.
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Old 06-26-2008, 02:55 PM
 
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"W" on the other hand after vowing to get Bin Laden Dead or Alive, the Mastermind of the greatest terrorist attack ever on American soil, has completely forgotten about him while he continues his tragic focus on a muddled neocon vision of a flowering Garden of Democracy in the Middle East.
Get over it, isnt that what Democrats tell Republicans when they say something against the Democrats. That was 8 years ago... thats so old news...
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Old 06-26-2008, 05:56 PM
 
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Not true. Check into it. The Yemen authorities were not being cooperative with the investigation. The al qaeda connection was not made until after Bush took office. This is public knowledge.
I think not.

CNN.com - US - U.S. official sees similarities between USS Cole blast and embassy attacks - October 22, 2000 (http://archives.cnn.com/2000/US/10/23/uss.cole.01/ - broken link)

Notice the date; October 23, 2000
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U.S. officials on Friday said they were looking at a number of militant groups in their probe of the attack on the Cole in the harbor at Aden, Yemen, and bin Laden's group, al-Qaeda, or "The Base," topped the list.
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On the tape, al-Zawahiri makes a direct threat to U.S. forces in Yemen. According to a transcript of the broadcast, he says:

"Enough of words, it is time to take action against this iniquitous and faithless force (the United States), which has spread its troops through Egypt, Yemen and Saudi Arabia."

The New York Times reported Friday that U.S. intelligence officials received reports in late May that a militant Egyptian Islamic group was in the final stages of preparing a terror attack against American targets.
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Old 06-26-2008, 06:46 PM
 
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I think not.

CNN.com - US - U.S. official sees similarities between USS Cole blast and embassy attacks - October 22, 2000 (http://archives.cnn.com/2000/US/10/23/uss.cole.01/ - broken link)

Notice the date; October 23, 2000
Riiiiight. So let's see - October 23, 2000 - they are still looking at a number of militant groups possibly in conjunction with the attack. Al qaeda is one of the groups at the top of the list.

You understand they were still investigating at this stage and Clinton only has 2 months left in office at this point, correct?


What did Bush do with this rapdily developing investigative information he was given in January 2001?


Same thing he did with the information that alqaeda were looking to plan an attack in the United states and that planes were involved.

Same thing he has done since 9/11 going after bin laden.


Nuthin.
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Old 06-26-2008, 07:06 PM
 
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Same thing he did with the information that alqaeda were looking to plan an attack in the United states and that planes were involved.

Same thing he has done since 9/11 going after bin laden.


Nuthin.
Oh, come now. They knew who it was. Clinton did nothing throughout the 90's, attack after attack, all leading up to 9/11. He was a total failure.

The PDB said they were looking to "hijack" planes to obtain the release of that blind fool. No mention of flying into buildings. Just the same modus operandi they had always used - hijacking.

Face it; Clinton weak-kneed, non-responses led directly to 9/11.

Corpus Christi Caller Times Caller.com - Clinton to Cole attackers: 'We will find you'
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Clinton described the unidentified attackers as people who allowed their religion, political, racial, or ethnic views to warp their view of the world. ``For them, it is their way or no way," Clinton said.
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The president said the crew of the Cole found common humanity and commitment to their country amid their diversity, and said that bond ``must surely confound the minds of the hate-filled terrorists who killed them."
I don't know. Sure sounds like bubba knew who attacked that ship.
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