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Old 06-24-2008, 09:10 PM
 
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Guess it would look pretty bad on Obama if Democrats arent paying their bills.
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Old 06-24-2008, 09:16 PM
 
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How does it make her look if the whole time she was saying her was not ready?

Now she thinks he is?

It makes her look like a larger lair than she was. I mean yea for the good of the party she goes against her beliefs? WOW . Or is it she just wanted to get elected? Something tells me that it is both. Why is it in order to be a "successful politician you need to sell your soul to the devil?
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Old 06-24-2008, 09:38 PM
 
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i dont see how it reflects on anyone else but hillary clinton. i also dont see how this debt is anyone else's responsibility besides hillary clinton.

i heard a guy on the radio today say that to appease hillary's disenfranchised female supporters, in order to unite the party, he should help pay her campaign debt. absolutely ridiculous.

i cannot donate to Barack Obama's campaign if my hard earned money is going to be a gift to pay down the 30 million dollar debt of a woman who is worth like 150 million.

she ran a lousy campaign. she was clearly unqualified for the office she was seeking. she didnt know when it was over. she ****ed up.

now she wants hommage from me? it aint gonna happen. maybe she should hit up the kid again, who sold his bike and gave over his grandma's birthday money.

-and she took it.
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Old 06-24-2008, 09:43 PM
 
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Hillary Clintons debt is her own!
Has anyone else ever asked for help paying campaign debt?
Again all this shows is she is unfit to handle large amounts of money she could not even stay within the box of her own campaign money what does that say about her!
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Old 06-24-2008, 10:46 PM
 
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i dont see how it reflects on anyone else but hillary clinton. i also dont see how this debt is anyone else's responsibility besides hillary clinton.

i heard a guy on the radio today say that to appease hillary's disenfranchised female supporters, in order to unite the party, he should help pay her campaign debt. absolutely ridiculous.

i cannot donate to Barack Obama's campaign if my hard earned money is going to be a gift to pay down the 30 million dollar debt of a woman who is worth like 150 million.

she ran a lousy campaign. she was clearly unqualified for the office she was seeking. she didnt know when it was over. she ****ed up.

now she wants hommage from me? it aint gonna happen. maybe she should hit up the kid again, who sold his bike and gave over his grandma's birthday money.

-and she took it.
Just a minor correction, Obama is not giving money to the Clintons, he wants others to give it. A possible reason might be if she become VP candidate, his campaign would become liable for the debt, so asking for the debt to be paid off first before announcing the VP candidate (if indeed its to be Clinton) is a smart move, doesnt put the liability on the Obama budget.

The Clintons are worth I think around $41M, not $150M..

Other then that, yes, I agree.. The issue comes down to if the Clintons have debt not paid off, they still dont have to pay it, the little guys get screwed and dont get paid. It also means that if the Clintons are going to run for anything again, (like the Senate), the debt has to be paid off before they raise money for H Clintons re-election.

I will give Obama credit though, he always wants someone else to pay the bill and he doesnt hide it.
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Old 06-24-2008, 10:48 PM
 
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Has anyone else ever asked for help paying campaign debt?
Actually yes, it is quite common. My main concern would be to find out if the debt listed is Clinton debt, i.e. the loans she made to the campaign, or other individuals?

If its the loans then that money goes right into the Clintons pockets, if its other debt, then that means some little guy is getting screwed because they provided a service to the Clintons and are not going to get paid if they dont raise the money.
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Old 06-24-2008, 10:53 PM
 
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Does anyone else see how incredibly wrong this is? My god, this amounts to a politician bailout or a political bancruptcy --- great way to show fiscal responsibility!
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Old 06-25-2008, 07:35 AM
 
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/10/us...l?ref=politics

The reality is that Obama is the only financially competent Democrat and needs to carry the load for everyone else.

Several Obama fund-raisers interviewed, however, said privately that they believed helping Mrs. Clinton with her debt would be difficult, given that they are also being asked to raise money for Mr. Obama and to build up the coffers of the Democratic National Committee, which badly trails the Republican National Committee in cash on hand.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/10/us...l?ref=politics
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Old 06-25-2008, 07:45 AM
 
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The reality is that Obama is the only financially competent Democrat and needs to carry the load for everyone else.
Which considering the national appeal for the Clintons just a few years ago, this statement is true but odd.
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Old 06-25-2008, 07:47 AM
 
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I started a thread on this because this is odd as you wrote. Why? He has done so well and they have done so not so well. Is this a harbinger of things to come for the party? What if he were not on the landscape as a player now? One of the reasons he had support with so many superdelegates was their need to have him help them fundraise in their home state. are Democrats tapped out by the economy?
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